I think the tier 2 change is dog shit and no fucking point because ya know that stops cop stacks and extreme usage of apd equipment LOL. This is a joke 

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43 minutes ago, SystemChips said:

This is a fat yikes no cap
 

@Mr Majestic

I don't have anything to do with how your uniform looks man. I'm happy to take the credit (read: blame) for this, and while I think this is a good change (apart from the loss of aesthetics), this was a staff and sAPD thing. The civilian council has bought this up in the past, but this time around it was a staff thing and the sAPD agreed.

Lets see what the designers do with uniforms?

2 minutes ago, Mr Majestic said:

I don't have anything to do with how your uniform looks man. I'm happy to take the credit (read: blame) for this, and while I think this is a good change (apart from the loss of aesthetics), this was a staff and sAPD thing. The civilian council has bought this up in the past, but this time around it was a staff thing and the sAPD agreed.

Lets see what the designers do with uniforms?

My bad I thought that was all civ council.
Hopefully some sAPD/Staff can see some reason to this because I dont really understand

1 minute ago, SystemChips said:

My bad I thought that was all civ council.
Hopefully some sAPD/Staff can see some reason to this because I dont really understand

I think Nerdy explained fairly well. if you go up a few posts.

1 minute ago, Mr Majestic said:

I think Nerdy explained fairly well. if you go up a few posts.

Maybe I should redirect my post then I'm just wondering if we could give corps a differently designed vest.
@ThatNerdyGuy
The blue APD vest works on POs because POs get a blue shirt as shown here


Now Imagine putting that on corps with the red/yellow/black shirts it looks retarded


Options from best to worst:

1. Script a new carrier lite that is armor level 2 for corps+
2. Design the apd vest to at least be black or something
3. Use another armor level 2 vest from arma

I'm fine with the worse vest and less armor. All the APD nerfs I think they are pretty fair as the APD is strong, but just dont make my drip game weak.

3 hours ago, SystemChips said:

Maybe I should redirect my post then I'm just wondering if we could give corps a differently designed vest.
@ThatNerdyGuy
The blue APD vest works on POs because POs get a blue shirt as shown here


Now Imagine putting that on corps with the red/yellow/black shirts it looks retarded


Options from best to worst:

1. Script a new carrier lite that is armor level 2 for corps+
2. Design the apd vest to at least be black or something
3. Use another armor level 2 vest from arma

I'm fine with the worse vest and less armor. All the APD nerfs I think they are pretty fair as the APD is strong, but just dont make my drip game weak.

I'd take a downgrade for an all tan or tan and green uniform, there are tan and green vests and IMO it would still keep Corporal distinctive enough from POs.

yo that bet limit lmao

#remove useless vigilante Council

  w8 where is shitilante Council ??? Nothing about Vigis in the post

46 minutes ago, Dante said:

Nah. They weren’t. Was more incentives for corporal + the tier 2 looks like absolute dog shit for Corp uniforms.  We had no plans to revert it at the time. Not sure what bug you’re referring to though, because if the vest was bugged, not sure why we would have just changed it for corps. 
 

albeit this was a long ass time ago and my memory isn’t great, but we definitely changed it from requests and not for a temp purpose. 

I may be wrong then, I remember being told that there was an issue with the tier 2 vest at the time due to a Arma update.

2 hours ago, mohsen98 said:

#remove useless vigilante Council

  w8 where is shitilante Council ??? Nothing about Vigis in the post

Even if there was, you would be very upset about it as usual.

Since your here @mohsen98 tell us, list everything you would change or add to the Vigilantes. Don't hold back, I want to hear every single idea you have friend!

Now that we potentially have people wanting to play less cop we should focus on civ buffs instead of apd nerfs. 
you can put apd in the dirt but that doesn’t automatically make those players play civ. 
constant apd nerfs can lead to players leaving because their favorite faction is completely weak and they don’t like civ. 

im not saying I think this is a change in the wrong direction because I do think it’s a good change but instead for future ideas

On 12/10/2019 at 3:34 PM, Dante said:

Nah. They weren’t. Was more incentives for corporal + the tier 2 looks like absolute dog shit for Corp uniforms.  We had no plans to revert it at the time. Not sure what bug you’re referring to though, because if the vest was bugged, not sure why we would have just changed it for corps. 
 

albeit this was a long ass time ago and my memory isn’t great, but we definitely changed it from requests and not for a temp purpose. 

Armed planes had come along and were killing cops left and right, turns out t3 vests could withstand a great deal more armed plane shots but were almost indistinguishable on the ground e.g. 3 7.62 to kill instead of 2 so they were adopted.

I was a cop when that change happened and there was tons of controversy around it then too, we survived with t2 vests in the past but I wish the SAPD were honest (traded corp vests for the mk18) instead of coming up with a half baked excuse (if t2 was bugged why did only corps get it?) I don't have too much of an issue with the nerfs except lethal split but I just with the current SAPD was honest with us about them.

Lets say a prayer for those who bet above 50m now there is a 1b cap

I wan't eddy and rabid to do a 200m bet

4 hours ago, NokiaStrong said:

Now that we potentially have people wanting to play less cop we should focus on civ buffs instead of apd nerfs. 
you can put apd in the dirt but that doesn’t automatically make those players play civ. 
constant apd nerfs can lead to players leaving because their favorite faction is completely weak and they don’t like civ. 

im not saying I think this is a change in the wrong direction because I do think it’s a good change but instead for future ideas

Civilian council isn't here to turn civilians into terminators - we're after fun, fair and balanced gameplay. We're making good progress with balancing the factions and restoring the general order of things - far from perfect, but we're getting there. Once we see some of the bigger features we've had in the pipeline for the past few months things can only improve further.

Right now I'd love to see the focus on cartels and getting federal events back into the lime light. Personally I'd love to see the APD have some sort of federal event they can start and the civilians attack for once. Some sort of protect the VIP, gold transport or something along those lines.

NokiaStrong is right apd at the PO rank is weak AF compared to most rebel load outs. which is a majority of the active police population.

7 hours ago, Devil dog said:

NokiaStrong is right apd at the PO rank is weak AF compared to most rebel load outs. which is a majority of the active police population.

Which is good

How far down the trello do we think this stuff is 

16 hours ago, TheCmdrRex said:

How far down the trello do we think this stuff is 

can't be much further than when you were lead 

On 12/12/2019 at 7:41 AM, Devil dog said:

NokiaStrong is right apd at the PO rank is weak AF compared to most rebel load outs. which is a majority of the active police population.

L0L @Mr Majestic I'm shocked you haven't replied to this.

As if my arguments are invalid.. even cop PO's feel unfairly kitted, and they're definitely not!

2 hours ago, Mako said:

There are currently no plans to introduce uniforms outside of the current palette especially considering the vests you're referencing are T1 

Why tho?

If we're getting technical there's nothing preventing us from scripting the black carrier lite down to be T2 or making the green or tan vest T2. Also the current color palette sucks and IMO the PO and uniforms are plain ugly. I've talked with design staff a bunch about this and new good looking designs are constantly shot down by a SAPD that hates change.

If we're losing our vests that distinguish us and look cool because scripting is too hard I don't see why we shouldn't get some uniforms that do the same.