I completely agree on this, you nailed it Pat. When you told me about this yesterday in my TS, I had to come check it out, great points! My gang, ~PAC~, takes in players no matter what their experience. We get a bunch of crap from people saying our gang is just "squeakers" and "shitters" but at least they are learning to do runs, and even learning how to play in general. We may not be the best gang, but at least we have fun and are teaching new Arma players or new Olympus players the ropes. I personally discipline my gang members if I find out they robbed someone in something smaller than a box truck, robbing someone doing a legal run, or killing fresh spawns in Kavala. I remember how hard it was to make money on legal runs with just a hatchback, now I have 13 mil. I have been here for over a year now and have seen many people come and go, even friends, because it was too hard to make money. We as frequent players need to help the community grow, not kill it. Lastly, for all the people giving my gang shit, I leave you with these words: At least I'm trying to help the server grow.