Unpopular opinion but the idea communism is great

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20 hours ago, Hoonter said:

But it like did in the Soviet Union for 70 odd years, Cuba, etc.

Yeah, they experienced a great quality of life /s

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13 hours ago, Strikke said:

This

 

Communism kills competition which in turn kills innovation. Progress would be awfully slow or we might even be stuck with certain technologies for a LONG time before anything better comes alogn. 

Of course this is what we all learned in basic economics, but the reality is that it isn't that simple. Take China for example, a very lucrative market with increasing technological advancements. Some might argue China is not really a communist state but it is *technically* communist based on the idea of democratic centralism, which was an idea presented by Vladimir Lenin, which allows for open discussion of policy. Many people consider China to be in the early stages of socialism though. Also, OP said that humanity is too greedy for communism to work but the truth is that single people are too greedy for it to work. Sounds great as a whole society but it takes just one corrupt government official to fuck it all up.(most) People want what's best for them not everyone else.

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5 hours ago, Hunter said:

Communism kills! This is not debatable. The record is crystal clear. The U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee conducted investigations into the number killed in the Soviet Union and China. Their report stated that 35 million to 45 million had been killed in the Soviet Union and 34 million to 62.5 million in Communist China. Even these figures are considered inadequate by authorities on the Soviet Union such as Solzhenitsyn and Antonov Ovesyenko. The latter, whose father led the Bolshevik storming of the Winter Palace in 1917, has recently published the book entitled The Time of Stalin-Portrait of a Tyranny. He calculates those killed as a result of the Communist conquest of Russia at 100 million. Some apologists for Communism acknowledge that Communism has killed in the past, but they blame this on incidental factors such as the traditions of cruelty and violence which existed in the countries conquered by the Communists, and they do not believe that killing is an essential ingredient of communism itself. They believe that the triumph of Communism in the United States, England, or Western Europe would not lead to mass slaughter. Are they right or are they suffering from a dangerous delusion? To answer this question, it is necessary to know why Communism kills. A simple, direct answer to the question, "Why does communism kill?" is-because the founder of Communism, Karl Marx, told them it was necessary to kill a large segment of the population in order to attain the basic objective of Communism. Marx states in the Manifesto of the Communist Party: You must, therefore, confess that by "individual" you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible. (Published by Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1973 edition, page 66) Apologists for Marxism contend that Marx did not intend that this statement should be taken literally. They affirm that he was referring to the gradual elimination of property owners by the transformation of the economic system which Communism would bring to pass. They cannot deny, however, that many followers of Karl Marx, including Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, and Pol Pot have taken this affirmation literally and have proceeded to kill the "middle-class owners of property" once they have acquired power. My source for all of this information is from Dr. Fred C. Schwarz and Dr. Walter Judd. Walter Henry Judd or I-te Chou, was an American politician and physician, best known for his battle in Congress to define the conservative position on China as all-out support for the Nationalists under Chiang Kai-shek and opposition to the Communists under Mao Zedong. Frederick Charles Schwarz, MD was an Australian physician and political activist who founded the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade. He made a number of speaking tours in the United States in the 1950s, and in 1960, he moved his base of operations to California. These are two very respectable people, with reliable information. 

Fucking woke boi.

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4 hours ago, Noahhh! said:

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Fucking woke boi.

Yee I mean it's not even an argument... Communism has never worked and has almost always resulted in the citizens oppressed by their governments.. communism is a society killer plain and simple..

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you all are talking about the reality of communism but not the idea of it like i said. as i said in the original post is that i know communism would never work im not a communist and ive never voted for the communist party. what im saying is the IDEA of communism as in what it is meant to be not what it is is a good idea