Gwate

I consider being such a baby backed bitched that you gotta stop playing because people can buy a mine detector that no one uses? Yeah bro for sure. I'd suck the meat off your dick if you can name 10 people off the top of your head who are habitual users of the mine detector

I'm so confused why sov is bitching. Are they pissy that mines are in the game? How tf are you getting mined? I forgot they even existed until I read this post. Skill issue tbh

Every person in that photo is on a tase and rob list now. Good Luck

Thats why I fuck with you. That's goated behaviour. You gave an option to roleplay. That's kind of how the issue with roleplaying with cops has been recently. Cops code 3 you and you stop driving, 9/10 they'll still book you just because they can. I've had good experience with APD players before. I remember cops pulling up to frogs and instead of taking all our shit, just told us to pay our bounty and go. APD can be such a fun role. Play a corrupt cop of some kind, give options to players to roleplay with you in situations like raids. Be nicer when people surrender themselves instead of robo coping. It's good to see APD is moving in a more positive direction. Xsmithers is great for that. It's almost like congratulating a politician for doing his taxes. Its not even bare minimum, roleplaying on cops and not being complete assholes should have been a requirement. Except Aegis. I support locking them up. ROBO COP THEM TO HELL

It's so funny looking at the real world parallel of how cops have so much discretion to not be huge fucking cunts but choose to anyway because they are backed by unquestioned power making most police interactions insufferable moments of power tripping galore. I'm so happy APD had to make a rule to not be huge fucking cunts to new players LMAOOOOO. Kill all APD pigs. Too much ego for being online cops. I hope AP goes on another cop robbing spree again

Here is the mental attitude I have towards it. I trust the Olympus anti-cheat. Cheater comes in, does fuck shit and gets caught. Pays for unban which supports Olympus and its future work. Lets say they get caught cheating again. Olympus could do a 3 strikes and you're out rule for cheaters. Each time they are caught increases the price for the unban until the cheater finds it pointless to either keep paying or can never get an unban again. Both ways, cheaters will want to get back to the server and already make new steam accounts to play again. You can't stop them from coming, but you can monetize their stupidity while still upholding the integrity of the game. And lets be real about good will, there has never been good will. Almost all of the most dedicated players to the server were exploiting on conquest and some of the biggest most infamous gangs like Aegis have had their cheating issues. Your dedicated players could care less

Really happy to see new WPL changes even if they came rather late. The new player experience has always been terrible and I also feel a little sad that the WPL buff required the server to essentially hit an unprecedented low player count and terrible player retention before realizing shoehorning players into either the tracks of vigilantes or rebels was never going to be a good idea. The server had too many wolves and not enough sheep and almost no shepherds. As a WPL advocate I'm giving some more feedback 1. How will the benefits of the New WPL be disincentivized in being used illegally? Better box trucks and trucks will create a meta of having at least 1 WPL in a rebel gang. WPL's found participating in criminal activities should have their WPL removed on arrest (by cops only) and have a charge stacked on that has a high bounty (either on arrest or after a fight). Criminal activities should only be classified as participating in illegal runs/federals, shooting at cops and robbing kidneys. I think the only charge obvious charge that shouldn't get your things taken away is manslaughter and gang homicide because the nature of WPL is you will need to shoot people. 2. More avenues for Progression. Listed in the Roundtable, I don't think removing processing licenses or reducing their prices is a good idea and increasing their prices can be beneficial An issue that has plagued rebel (not really vigi because it's so much of a grind) is getting to top of your progression becomes easy and rather boring. I think getting to the top should be a fun mountain new players will climb. Each new processing license should be like opening a new part of the map in a video game with more avenues with increases in the WPL license making it easier and more profitable. I think not having a processing license shouldn't prevent you from being able to process something but should give you less money (25% loss without processing license). Processing without a license will also give you a charge. I say 65k so just below what a vigi can hit you with but doing it more than once means a vigi can have your ass and is so low that a cop wouldn't ever arrest you but would ask for you to pay a ticket. (Another incentive for cops to be around processors as both protection and monitoring of WPLS and a fun RP option). A lack of pickup modifiers which could assist players in unique ways Picking up things is a bitch but exists as a sort of balance of how fast you can make money. While fair, I think playing around with it can be done. Similar to popping a redbull, you could have a drink or a tool that you can activate like a redbull that increases pickup speeds at legal pickups only. could be a 10% -15% buff to speed. You could also just make tools you buy and have in your backpack that are expensive but give you unique pickup benefits like the enhanced drill that are also very profitable to sell when stolen by a rebel. To add even MORE depth to this mechanic, different legal pickup spots based on the profitably of a run could have a different tool with a scaling of price on how much value it'll have when stolen. Gives the incentive to rebels to leave lower profitability areas (and consequently newer players) alone and the higher profit run being riskier Out of the way Alternatives buffs. Just as Advanced Rebel has buy them once buffs, I think the out of the way things like fishing (please increase fish spawn rate in certain areas), apple and peach picking and deep sea scavenging should get slight buffs. I think making it a buy once only thing that slightly increases sell price so when WPLs have been ganked a ton and need a low impact thing to do, they'll actually go do these things. 3. WPL map events Currently, the only consistent map event is the nuclear strike that spawns radioactive material. It's a good event since everyone can do it and have big profit but only Rebel can really make a lot of profit from it. I think you can do the same thing but make rebels actually feel like rebels. The map event should allow only WPL's to pickup the objects and the only way the rebels can get the material is they kill the WPLs that are picking them up and taking it from their inventory. Rebels can go to a processing spot and get an even better profit on the objects. Makes the Rebels actually play like rebels with interfighting between rebel gangs and wpls and gives police something they can do(and limits can be placed on the amount of police that can show up). I think my feedback hits the spot on adding more interactivity. WPLs should be the sheep, APD should be the Shepherds and Rebels the Wolves. And while these sheep can be profitable morsels, Cops and big WPL gangs should be the balancer. I might make an effort post on how rebel as a class also needs to be reshaped. I think the current issue with rebel today is you're kind of blocked from doing a lot of the bigger things like federals because gangs like Aegis steamroll a lot of these at the slightest attempt but once the WPL changes go through I'll see if the new additions doesnt fix my issues with rebel first before giving my opinions.

I don't think unbanning players who cheated would ever work out. If the deterrent of losing out on the most Active Rp-esque Arma server wasn't enough to stop you, why should it be expected you will know give any reasonable care to what is now a dying server. Doesn't really make sense? Also, the entitlement to ask for an unban is kinda crazy. Most games just drop a perma and you can't ever touch it without buying a new copy. At least have the decency to say you'll donate 40$ to Olympus to get an unban (or whatever the market value is for arma 3 rn). You cheated and now if you want to return, you should show some good graces in supporting the server. Right now, as was pointed out by Ryan, Olympus suffers a retention issue. Even giving a chance to let cheaters come in and ruin the gameplay experience for new players which is already arguably ruined by 5+ year tryhards steamrolling them in the most disrespectful way isn't gonna be a good idea. Good luck on your next unban appeals, maybe throw some money at the server to at least give some incentive for your unban.

Can we get a body check on Sov? Is this bitch hot? Asking so I know if I should agree or disagree with them. Also "The grift if the century" brothaaaa in the first sentence come on

I'm taking 15% credit for getting WPL reworked and I will not elaborate

I'm gonna find you and strip you naked and take photos of you like the pre game to a cartel torture video before I tell you to bend over and put some belt to ass before I sell your taser on the black market for 3 mil. Kill all APD. ACAB

Holding a medic hostage and restraining them is just semantics for the same thing. In both cases the medic is being forcefully taken with you. Only certain exceptions allow them to continue partaking in their duty while in a hostage state. If the rule states the medic can't revive or do anything for people in illegal areas without an APD escort or another medic present (bar exceptions such as federals) and you have that medic hostaged then asking the medic to revive people would be against the rule. However because you can take a medic hostage irrespective of anything else, you can shoot a medic for trying to run away if you tell him to stay in place even when cops tell them to leave the area. Because them running away isn't them partaking in any medic duties. And listening to APD is not a required hard set rule for R&R. Yes in certain occasions you have to listen to APD as a rule but not all situations. Once again, hostaging a medic and telling them to provide service to people is allowed BUT is prohibited in certain occasions. Thats the whole point of this whole thing. You can take a medic hostage or restrain them (still the same thing) and taking them to illegal areas. But once they continue their duties such as providing aid to someone, they are now once again doing their duties. And when you do your duty you have to follow the rules. So that means medic in illegal zone (bar federals once again) can't be forced to revive because they aren't allowed to do their duties in a rebel zone without another medic present. Its very simple to get

I was gonna read everything but just stopped here because you kind of lost with this mention. You can't threaten someone to break a rule of the server/faction through a hands up or die threat. Pretty simple as that. In the first chapter of the life rule it does clearly state "If another player breaks rules it does NOT give you the right to break a rule yourself." So you gotta start on the assumption that if someone asks you to break a rule or breaks a rule themselves that you can't follow along and break that rule. Pretty simple In the Supplemental Rules under chapter 2 it also states "It must be reasonably clear who a player is engaging and that it is engagement and not a troll or a joke." Asking someone to break the rules of the server or die seems like a joke, almost even a troll perhaps . So the medic shouldn't be appreciated to have reasonably taken your engagement as anything but a joke. It would be just as preposterous if someone messaged me "VDM me or die". I could stop the response here but I'll respond to your other points. So the RNR handbook, an official rule/guidebook gives a clear mandatory requirement or obligation imposed onto them. This isn't a Ought statement or should statement, it's a must statement. You must do X, or you violate rule Y. You can rewrite the rule logically to mean, you must not operate without collision lights. Written as either a prohibition or mandatory statement, it is still a clear requirement that must be done or you break the rule. My issue with this characterization is how you separate how hostage-taking does change the positive status of the individual arrested. When you hostage take someone, they are unable to participate in their active duties. You may be a medic in name when you are taken into a rebel area but you are not participating in any medical activities as you are unable to. If you took a medic hostage then forced them to do the role of a medic in a illegal area without another higher ranked medic present then you would be forcing them to break the rule. A better way to understand this is a medic violates a rule when in the pursuit of their duties they wilfully undermine or break a rule. Same reasoning applies, the medic is not participating in their duties currently as you have forced them as a hostage. If you had them as a hostage and forced them to heal someone inside rebel, you are asking them to perform their duties which would break the rule. Yes you would be breaking the rule by forcing them to do anything before taking off their wetsuit. Pretty cut and dry mandatory statement. You write this with the implication of preposterous nature of the rule but its a mandatory requirement. So yeah.... I don't get what you're saying here. Musts are mandatory and if not followed they break a rule. Exceptions give certain permissible activities to otherwise prohibited behaviour. Look at a real life example. You must not kill someone, but an exception to this rule is self defence. If you kill someone in self defence, you have been granted an exception to otherwise prohibited behaviour. If there isn't an exception to the rule then the rule must be followed? Don't need to be a scholar to understand that. The assumption in the rule is that they are clearly discussing a single matter of hostage taking. As the rule kind of presumes with allowing an extension to hostage taking time and hostage extension times only applies when the same group has kept a medic hostage. All the rule is saying is that the same group can't take the medic hostage after that. Pretty cut and dry considering almost this same dynamic for hostage taking is defined in Chapter 8 of life rules. Yeah, you would be breaking the rule. You know what doesn't violate that rule? "Auto hover or be titaned" Lol, it's pretty simple to not break the rule there and therefore not be forcing the medic to break a rule. Once again, yes you would be breaking the rule because that is a mandatory requirement for them to follow? Very cut and dry answer. Kill piggy cops and taser and hostage take everyone. Bonus points for hostage taking a piggy cop. I'm not proof reading any of this shit

you should make this a feature of WPL as well when selling legals