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4 hours ago, Mk-1 said:

yo i love it when i open my door with a 15k bounty and lose 15 mill worth shit or access my gang shed with an akm and lose 21 mill of moonshine i was working on all day just because sho has no life @Sho like this

 https://gyazo.com/11ec86206b8631dc5496588e71a0f5ba 

https://gyazo.com/2e07d792b2a90536989616a0cfc9d197

https://gyazo.com/f50936d8763721bbc80905e766186c4f

Edit:niggas really after us

Exactly, which im assuming they werent even initiated on you. This NEEDS to be fixed man,

And a house isn't a little "cubby" or "drawer", Its something that cost's a lot of money (2.2mil) and it shouldn't just be that easy to raid a house. People pay for houses, for their privacy and the fact it can be raided within the snap of a finger is dumb stupid. Houses cost a lot of money for a reason, and the probable cause needs to be changed. Period.

2 hours ago, |REAL| Boing said:

Lets step back.. this isnt a hate post for APD. Apd is essential to server life. It maintains balance with the rest of the factions and prevents any one gang from taking the whole map over and doing whatever they want. While Apd may be taking a turn for the worse, they aren't the only ones in charge. OS ultimately steps in when things get bad, and as the civ council is supposed to we will continue bringing the issues up in meetings with OS to drive change.

What this post is saying: APD can pretty much search any house they want so long as a criminal has touched said house.

That needs to change. Specifically, the APD should need to be engaged with the person who touched the house, and just entering the house shouldnt be grounds to search. If they barricade into the home, search it. If they interact with inventory while next to/inside the home, search it. But if they open a door and close the doot and run out the back, you shouldn't be able to do anything to that house.

@Pledge

Real cops dont search houses that are empty without a specific search warrant. And it's extremely difficult to obtain a search warrant to look for illegal items. Warrants for search are usually obtained on the grounds that someone is held up in the home that is wanted for arrest. Cops are only able to search houses if a warrant has been issued, or they make an arrest on the property and believe there to be illegal items on the property. Well known drug dealers houses get searched occasionally, but only if there's a pending investigation into that home owner.

I say this because you brought IRL cops into this thread, and my point is this: This isnt how APD does things. This isn't real life. It's a lite rp server, and you can't compare what real cops do to what olympus cops do. The rules are entirely different.

yes ^ this sums all my emotions into one, MAKE A CHANGE!

4 hours ago, RDyer216 said:

Opening a door itself shouldn’t be enough to search.  Nor should having a bounty because the player wasn’t ID’d.  And if he wasn’t engaged, why would it be searched?

Players can open all sorts of doors on the map.  APD COULD use these loop holes to mark locations of certain houses on a map for future reference.

Oh wait, I think this has already been started in a few DP’s such as DP22-D25

 

AMEN

1 minute ago, KrispyK said:

this rule honestly should be changed. should only be searchable if you interact with it store/pull. not just being inside. should only be able to break doors down if someones inside, not search

exactly, and imagine not even being initiated...

17 minutes ago, Aether said:

 

Trust but verify,

 

I don't suppose you have a video recording of what transpired that you'd be willing to share(even though it would be showing your house location)?

I only started recording after I got the first message about my house being raided.

25 minutes ago, Hadi Mokdad said:

Searching a house/gang shed is authorized when:

An APD member has a form of probable cause (bounty, illegal weapon, etc.) and witnesses a civilian interacting with, shooting out of, or taking refuge in a house/gang shed in any form. The Sergeant or higher has discretion on whether or not to conduct a search.

 

Even if you have someones else key, the house can still be searched despite if you are the owner/key holder.  Your name will pop on the house information saying key holder online so it's still getting searched

 

 

 

Okay, that needs to be nerfed, I know the rules.

So yesterday I was chillin in DP 11, when a cop car was coming up from the distance, not code 3 or anything. I see that I have a 173k bounty and an illegal weapon so I run through through my house, in through the front door and out the back, keep in mind they weren't initiated on me, or said anything to me. I didn't store anything in my house, or take anything out I didn't even look in the trunk. All I did was run through my house. Next thing you know my house is being raided, doors broken down and I was like okay thats fine they wont find me there. THEN I GET A MESSAGE SAYING THEY ARE SEARCHING MY HOUSE, and they ended up seizing 8 mil worth of drugs.

I just think that the house raiding probable cause is kind of stupid and should be nerfed, for all they know I could have been at someone else's house with keys, or cops can just CAMP for hours at a house with a lot of drugs and just siezing everything after seeing someone come out the front door when they re-spawned, and the fact that I wasn't even in the house or initiated makes it 10x worse, and I was veryyy upset.

I think the rule should be changed if the cops visibly see someone accessing the house, or if they go in and come out with a different load out, or if the cops are initiated on you and you lock the doors. etc should be probable cause. However not being initiated and running THROUGH your house shouldn't be probable cause, because they shouldn't have the need to search the house if no one is in it.

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STOPPIE WHEELIE SAME THING FUCK

just goin to chop this monster and i nail this wheelayyyyyy

i think there would be so many VDM's it would be unreal, or even just enhanced amount of crashings, but I mean I guess a use at your own risk?

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