Gonna say it once and leave it at that. Everyone knows exactly what the fuck the problem is. The chief doesn't want to play with people at all. The chief of police, the man people are supposed to associate with the role of being their leader, won't so much as say a single word to anyone below deputy chief. Everyone under him constantly makes excuses for the behavior because anyone saying anything slightly negative could destroy their APD careers.
The only currently active high ranking cop that spends any time at all actually playing with the lower ranks is Rexo. Winters and Mako just ego everything and everyone. When mako gets on it's full clique. Separate channels or log out if people not from his little group start playing cop. Winters will straight up play 6 hours solo without spending 1 minute in vc. Doesn't even stop to say hi. Everyone under him just constantly 24/7 makes excuses for that behavior. He's a leader. He doesn't get to do that.
Fact of the matter is, and I'm not even memeing here, Caloom Clark does more to lead apd and play with the lower ranks as an FTO in any given random day than winters has the entire 3 months I was on APD.
APD is basically like one of those dead gangs where ex members keep trying to bring it back, the old leadership won't pass r5 on, and is more content to watch it die a slow painful death repeatedly than take responsibility for it.
Winters is probably an alright dude. I have nothing against him personally... but he's literally doing the worst possible job anyone in that position could possibly do.