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  1. For Context:

    Wywyh made his way to Kav to get some people up, upon arriving he was met with engagement (Leave or die), left and Tac Respawned during combat.

    "Leave or die" Is engagement. 

    Rule 1: Redeploying while engaged or to avoid an obvious hostage situation while on medic is considered combat logging
    Rule 2: Proper roleplay Engagement is generally, but is not required to be, a demand followed by a threat.

    Mr.Misc went to support and spoke to a few supervisors, then Marcus waddled his way into the channel. The supervisors talked thoroughly and could not reach a answer, so when Marcus came in he pulled his "Admin" "Head of Faction Card" to clearly allow medics to not be held to the handbook standard & server rule standard. I sent Marcus a TS MSG where he then dragged me and the clip below is what comes of our short lived brain dwindling talk.

    https://medal.tv/games/arma-3/clips/ld6ECUB75cJ2TRCL0?invite=cr-MSx0RGMsMzM0NDg5OTkw&v=99 @ Marcus


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  2. 30 minutes ago, Pseudonym said:

    Can you search a vehicle before you impound it if you have no PC? If you see a random vehicle, how do you know it doesn't have, say, 100 silver in it, and that someone is going to go back for it?

    If there is no PC to search the truck, (Ex. Wanted player has keys) then no, they can not search it. If a truck is left unattended and the APD are in the area were allowed to impound.

  3. 1 hour ago, The Sovereign said:

    Civ council voted years ago to have a notification tell cops theres items in a vehicle so they don't accidentally impound legal stuff.  Guess that took a back seat to all of aegis' priorities.  

    This was actually passed and put in the server. The APD can see the exact legal items in the trucks, aswell as the amount. The cops in the video knew what was in them.

  4. 11 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

    oh I thought it might mean like you needed to have that charge on you 3 times. But yeah your interpretation seems more like how it's intended and common sense, but like..... i'm probably on my 40th offense on some of these crimes. Does that mean they can do the third offense level punishment every time I get charged with it from now on? It's stuff like that in the handbook that I really dislike. It's not even a gray area, it's just like undefined, unknowable.

    It it situation based, but reasonably if you commit the crime enough you'll be sent to jail, at that point it resets.

    Not trying to be rude or anything, are you employed or in school?
    It seems you have worked two full time jobs on arma 3 civ in the last week alone?

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  5. 3 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

    Let's think about this more carefully. Probable cause, according to the handbook, is when you have grounds conduct a search OR make an arrest. Now, if you were to send someone to jail, it's pretty obvious that you would have to arrest them. Yet flying without a pilot license doesn't actually provide you the probable cause needed to be able to arrest them. So it's a crime that you can be jailed for if you do it 3 times, but it's not a crime that you can be arrested for. You'd have to be arrested on some other crime that grants probable cause, and then you could finally get sent to jail for this crime.

    Though the ticket guide states jail you can’t be sent straight to jail due to it, doesn’t mean it’s not an arrest able offense. If you refuse two tickets at the allotted amount you will be sent to jail. The idea behind the 1,2,3 offense amounts is to punish those who troll or grief the APD.

     

    Ex. You stay in HQ, you are told to leave, you refuse, get detained, charged, pay your ticket, and are told to leave again. You come back in and do the same thing again, at the point that’s where the 1,2,3 statues come into play. Atleast that’s how I’m aware it works.

  6. 3 minutes ago, Pseudonym said:

    how so? as long as you don't restrain or detain them it seems fine to me. I landed a m900 at mushroom pro once trying to audit the apd, they told me to leave redzone, not get back in my m900, then they impounded it leaving me 2 km away from nearest garage even though I was in sight of the m900 outside of redzone, i wasn't detained, and it wasn't blocking a path or roadway. what officer in there right mind would impound a random m900 from someone who isn't wanted, and who you forced to leave the area of the m900

    again, bad apple, they shouldn’t have impounded it and left you there, knowing you probably left out some stuff but that besides the point. you entering a redzone is a charge, you entered an illegal area, but the cop should have handled it differently.

    i didn’t read the part where they told you to leave and you just walked outside the redzone instead of leaving, honestly you are just asking for it at that point, you should have gotten in your heli and LEFT like you were told to do so.

    I’ll tell you now, i’m the first person to tell a APD officer there wrong, but i’m also the last person that’s going to let you sit here and attempt to abuse the APD’s general population at your own amusement.

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  7. Leaving someone 1km+ from a garage with no car *every processer is 1+km from a garage* is against the server rules and APD handbook.

    Just now, Pseudonym said:

    idk but what's stopping the APD from telling them that? why does it matter that it's "governed by the APD" or not?

    there’s a code of conduct and common sense, police have jurisdiction over crimes and areas owned by the police. your reaching so hard.

  8. There is always bad apples anywhere you go, that doesn’t mean you need to “audit” or witch hunt and mass report as it’s put bluntly those who have a gap of knowledge or make a mistake. If you find the bad apples, then report them, otherwise witch hunting the APD and making them miserable because you breathe down there necks over any minor inconvenience not plain stated in the rules is not okay. Not to mention you target JAPD the most.

    Just now, Pseudonym said:

    ok well then what's stopping them from saying "leave silver pro or be shot"?

    what valid reason would a civilian doing a run at silver legally be told to vacate a location not governed by the APD?

    If there was an active situation and someone was told to vacate for there safety and leave with there truck, what cop in there right mind would stop them, pull them out, detain them, impound there truck, then let them go??

  9. 19 minutes ago, Pseudonym said:

    I've been trying to audit the impound rules recently, and the most insane thing to me was that they could literally just detain you randomly when your not wanted, impound your vehicle mid legal run, then unrestrain you and leave. There is nothing that prevents that scenario.

    You can not detain someone unless you have a valid reason to do so, probable cause is in the handbook. Again this is another example of you pulling gray area rule that’s not wrote and dragging it out as if it’s something major. I can assure you 99% of cops don’t impound vehicles just because. Majority of cops don’t find an excuse to ruin players runs, especially legal runs, at that point that are being unprofessional, at that point submit a report. The APD is not on the server to hender anyone’s fun gameplay for no reason.

  10. You say justice as if what happened was unfair...? Let me just throw this into ORBIT for a second... Two sAPD members of very higher ranks and much more involvement in the APD were BLACKLISTED for something similar... he kept his CPL and has had every chance to work his way back up. Justice.. thats not the word I'd use here.

  11. hawkg quite literally you deserve no whitelist on this server. You act more like a 12 year old now then ever. It’s sad that you’ve yet to grow up, but you can change, and will they accept you after.. well that’s unlikely. 

     

    as someone who previously was the annoying kid of olympus I get it, but grow up.

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  12. At the end of the day the compensation system is used to equate the value of gear/item/vic..etc lost. If the item is rare and not readily available and you broke a rule with intent knowing that it would cause the lose of the item from the economy they are more then likely subject to comp even after a “No Comp” dispute.

     

    Disputes are used to settle minor discrepancies between players to reduce unnecessary bans, not for those who break rules with ill intent to ruin player experience. 

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