Charlie Kirk Got RDM'ed

[The Sovereign 210]

In all seriousness, he should have whatever criminal penalty (as long as it's constitutional) that the state administers for such a crime, so long as he receives a fair non politicized trial.  
We live in a nation of laws.  

That doesn't mean the world isn't a better place for it.   You can commit a crime that benefits society, and it should still be a crime.   If you burn down a bank, and everyone's debt records that work with that bank are destroyed, you've done a good thing.  You should go to jail for arson, but you are a hero and that is your sacrifice.  

If someone who know is a child abuser, and you show up and beat the living fuck out of them and put the fear of god into them... you should go to jail for assault.  But you did a good thing.

The law is the not the harbinger of morality.  In fact the law is often on the opposite side of morality, and even when it's not, there's always plenty of cracks to fall through. 

Civil criminal action against evil works to counter evil when evil finds a way to flourish between the laws, or via an actually take over of the laws themselves (i.e. authoritarianism).

Charlie Kirk dying was a beautiful thing.  If you think it wasn't, it's because you romanticize that monster.  If you find yourself mourning him, it can be for several reasons.  You either starting thinking of him fondly before your morality and conscience fully developed in your brain because you were young, and now you find it difficult to reexamine those beliefs.  Or, you could be a pure sociopath that simply is incapable of feeling actual sympathy, and you had just put him on a pedestal.  Or you lack the emotional intelligence to see how many people's lives he effected badly, and/or have so much insecurity you give your loyalty to anyone who tells you you're special and better than others.

 

[genesis 487]

49 minutes ago, The Sovereign said:

If you're telling little girls they need to stay in the kitchen and black people they're too dumb to be pilots, it's a good thing when you die.  You made the world a better place.  Even personaly witnessing their father's death, his daughter will still be way better off growing up without an angry mutant telling them they belong in the kitchen and they have to get married at or before 18.

I cant stand Charlie but this is a wild take, nobody deserves to be killed for expressing their shitty opinions. 

[The Sovereign 210]

Just now, Mr Miscellaneous said:

Utah law doesn't allow forced marriage

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[Gwate 44]

Trump put flags to half mast and gave Charlie Kirk Military Honours. The glaze is crazy. American government does more for a mouthpiece propagandist who has never even been to basic training than actual soldiers LOL 

[Mr Miscellaneous 27]

I agree with the part where you say he should receive whatever constitutional penalty the state allows and a fair, non-politicized trial. Everything else in the reply is personal opinion, which isn’t even relevant to the original question, and I don’t agree with those opinions. @ The Sovereign Have a good rest of your day. 

[Pseudonym 244]

2 hours ago, Mr Miscellaneous said:

They have a prime suspect. L: 

What would be a just and lawful penalty if the case goes to court and they are found guilty. This question goes to you @ The Sovereign  feel free to chime in @ Pseudonym

Remember this is in the State of Utah.

I call in as legal counsel @ Blackout2991

[Milo 1294]

[Element_ 664]

5 hours ago, Eno said:

Where can I find this report?

The arrest affidavit of Tyler Robinson is out, highly recommend reading it.

[Promethus 328]

3 hours ago, The Sovereign said:

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you are the prime example of what happens when you take the other genders hormones... your brain is beyond repairable

your so confused on how to identify yourself you should stay clear of politics

[The Sovereign 210]

1 hour ago, Promethus said:

you are the prime example of what happens when you take the other genders hormones... your brain is beyond repairable

your so confused on how to identify yourself you should stay clear of politics

I'm cisgender bud.   Wake tf up.  You got so primed by propaganda to hate trans people you see then everywhere.  Kinda gay. 

[Eno 23]

1 hour ago, Element_ said:

The arrest affidavit of Tyler Robinson is out, highly recommend reading it.

Link?

[the rape 105]

SOVEREIGN I LOVE YOU

I AM A NATIONAL SOCIALIST AND THIS WAS FUNNY

[-dante- 5719]

111 comments so I ain’t reading all that but:

- Charlie Kirk said black people were better off during slavery so I don’t have any sympathy for him. 
- That being said his children and wife were in attendance and the ~3k people that were in attendance will be forever impacted by a senseless murder. Nobody has the right to murder someone for opposing views. Fuck him for taking a father away from his children. 
- Celebrating murder is fucked. Idc how awful Charlie may have been in regards to his politics. Celebrating him being murdered is way scummier than anything he said. 
- This won’t benefit anyone. People will fear speaking up publicly and it just divides us further. Nothing at all beneficial came out of this. Charlie was better off alive no matter if you agree with his politics or not. 

[Wolffe 80]

6 hours ago, Mr Miscellaneous said:

They have a prime suspect. L: 

What would be a just and lawful penalty if the case goes to court and they are found guilty. This question goes to you @ The Sovereign  feel free to chime in @ Pseudonym

Remember this is in the State of Utah.

Im chiming in on this, firing squad with a plot twist. No blanks, all live rounds. The rounds are engraved.

1 hour ago, The Sovereign said:

I'm cisgender bud.   Wake tf up.  You got so primed by propaganda to hate trans people you see then everywhere.  Kinda gay. 

I forget we have so many different types of mental illness nowadays.  Thanks for the reminder

It's a catch 22 with the death penalty; it's a quick way out for them if they are executed, but we aren't paying for them to still be alive and breathing. I say they forget to lock his cell and let's things sort themselves out.

[20 sumthing hawks 11]

All yall are bots 

[Toretto 844]

2 hours ago, -dante- said:

Charlie Kirk said black people were better off during slavery so I don’t have any sympathy for him.

Bruh please post his full explanation because we all know damn well this isn’t a quote and I’ve already seen the video of him explaining why. He also didn’t say they were better off being slaves.

It is true that black American men were good homemakers prior to the drug epidemic in America. Unfortunately, most black children grow up without a father in the household and the result of that is evident.

[The Sovereign 210]

I could post pictures of some of these guys mom's onlyfans and they wouldn't get as worked up as they are about Charlie kirks new body piercing.

[-dante- 5719]

3 hours ago, Toretto said:

Bruh please post his full explanation because we all know damn well this isn’t a quote and I’ve already seen the video of him explaining why. He also didn’t say they were better off being slaves.

During a debate with a black woman he said that blacks were in a better place during the era because they committed less crime. He calls slavery evil, while underhanding it by saying that they were better off during the time. 
 

that being said, it’s an example as to why I don’t like him and why he’s anti everything I believe in. But my post wasn’t to argue his politics. My post is to argue that the murderer is a piece of shit who not only impacted Charlie, but impacted 2 fatherless children, a widowed wife, and thousands of people in attendance who’s lives were changed for the worse. Regardless if you are on the left or right, celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk is more evil. 

[20 sumthing hawks 11]

Why does everyone care about this so much. There wasn’t THIS much controversy when trumps ear got grazed. Let it go already

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[The Sovereign 210]

37 minutes ago, 20 sumthing hawks said:

Why does everyone care about this so much. There wasn’t THIS much controversy when trumps ear got grazed. Let it go already

No use talking to them.  Everything you say just goes in one side of the neck and out the other.

[Toretto 844]

10 hours ago, -dante- said:

During a debate with a black woman he said that blacks were in a better place during the era because they committed less crime. He calls slavery evil, while underhanding it by saying that they were better off during the time. 

You saw the same 25-second clip plucked from a debate where he is cut off when explaining his point of view. He never says anything about slavery and says black America has been worse for the last 80 years than ever before. Which is a genuine fact. In the early 1900s, black families had a stronger household than today. Over the past 80 years, black family homes have been extremely divided and are fatherless. Read over this African-American family structure and see the data on the decline of the family structure in the black community. Another article on the decline of black family structure since the 1960s. I personally know many black people who have many kids with many different women. One in particular has 5 children, and he is 22 years old (I swear on my mom's life this is true).

[-dante- 5719]

31 minutes ago, Toretto said:

You saw the same 25-second clip plucked from a debate where he is cut off when explaining his point of view. He never says anything about slavery and says black America has been worse for the last 80 years than ever before. Which is a genuine fact. In the early 1900s, black families had a stronger household than today. Over the past 80 years, black family homes have been extremely divided and are fatherless. Read over this African-American family structure and see the data on the decline of the family structure in the black community. Another article on the decline of black family structure since the 1960s. I personally know many black people who have many kids with many different women. One in particular has 5 children, and he is 22 years old (I swear on my mom's life this is true).

The fact can be said about white America too. I know may white trash with many baby mamas. A buddy I grew up with who’s Caucasian as fuck had 4 kids before he was 20. All different women. This is a country problem, not a black America problem. Focusing this as only a black America problem is intentional ignorance. As seen In this article with plenty of quotes, he has said a lot of shit that why I didn’t agree with or like him  

Again, it doesn’t matter whether I liked him or not. Whether I was right or you’re right. What matters is that despite his politics, he should have never been shot and him being shot should not be celebrated. He spoke words and used his American given freedoms that didn’t involve breaking the law. He was a father and a husband and it’s an awful situation. 

[Gwate 44]

47 minutes ago, Toretto said:

You saw the same 25-second clip plucked from a debate where he is cut off when explaining his point of view. He never says anything about slavery and says black America has been worse for the last 80 years than ever before. Which is a genuine fact. In the early 1900s, black families had a stronger household than today. Over the past 80 years, black family homes have been extremely divided and are fatherless. Read over this African-American family structure and see the data on the decline of the family structure in the black community. Another article on the decline of black family structure since the 1960s. I personally know many black people who have many kids with many different women. One in particular has 5 children, and he is 22 years old (I swear on my mom's life this is true).

Did I just read this guy argue that African Americans had it better in America 80 years ago? 

What was Jim Crow Laws? Do you know what the Plessy v. Ferguson ruling was? What was Lynching? Sundown towns? White Race Riots? Segregation of State Sponsored Schools? The Tulsa Race massacre? Racialized police violence on Black Americans? WHAT WAS CIA INVOLVEMENT ON THE CRACK EPIDEMIC??????

You just pointed to a chart about stronger households and decided to ignore the next 120 years of state sponsored violence that targeted black families and tore them apart. I hate you and this is why I hate Charlie Kirk too. If this was the 1960s, you and Charlie Kirk would be the segregationist burning down my home or advocating to have me lynched. Anyone who can sit there and say getting legislation like the Civil Rights Act (which was resisted by southern states) which tried to protect Constitutional rights for African Americans to enjoy the same liberties their white counter parts did is someone who doesn't want me to live as an equal in their society. 

Remember folks, Charlie Kirk's argument for certain liberties like the 2nd amendment are that they are "god given" and are universal goods that must be protected even if they have unfortunate consequences like just a few gun deaths in America (ignore the school shootings tee hee). Yet the god given right to liberty and freedom, also things enshrined within the constitution and its founding fathers is terrible because black folks did more crime after fighting for freedom for slavery (and the next 120 years of state sponsored discrimination and violence against them)  

 

Rest in fucking Piss Charlie Merked

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Obligatory rest in piss

[Promethus 328]

21 hours ago, The Sovereign said:

I'm cisgender bud.   Wake tf up.  You got so primed by propaganda to hate trans people you see then everywhere.  Kinda gay. 

keep lying to yourself and your family, didnt get primed by any progaganda but i know your born with a dick or a pussy. your an attention seaker, its been that way since i came back to the community

[HydraPOX 103]

What a miserable thread