Muthinator

Perhaps this discussion will shed light on it and give more cops the confidence they need to bust through processing and move on with what they are doing.

Referring to the policy you stated and the general culture and perception that RP is expected during processing.

I noticed that and wondered the same thing. As far as I was concerned they were KOS for civs while active. I guess I will need to amend the R&R handbook.

That guy should get an award for fastest RDM on Olympus!

This is the mentality and the reason I dont play cop anymore. Not a big loss for the APD or anything but just one of the few reasons. Its literally cancer. If you dont want to spend time in jail or pay tickets stop committing crimes. Seriously, WTF is the point of having a bounty system if its impossible to catch and process everyone evenly? The current way gives everyone a fare shake. If APD gets you to the HQ then you are pretty much fucked, as it should be. Your way rewards the big gangs and promotes their ability to continue to operate in a lawless manner, which is fun for you and your gang but a real pain in the ass for everyone left in the wake. It will also continue to support the worthless RP that people attempt to crap out during processing to delay the process. I appreciate different opinions, but this just seems like another crappy idea that makes playing cop a bigger pain in the ass.

So stop trying to save them... What makes you think the cops want to fight it out and die over and over and over? There is no fun in that and there is not fun in losing the person you just caught. Again, sometimes you win and sometimes you do not. I dont like that there is rarely a moment where civs go, "we cant do it" or "its not worth the risk" when dealing with the APD. They usually just throw caution to the wind and go for it. Risk vs reward. Also, if you commit a shit ton of crimes and get caught you need to pay back your debt to society. Thats the cost of robbing people, killing people, and stealing shit. Honestly, whats the point of having a bounty system if cops can never catch and process you. Do you want to drive it down to the point to where cops just say fuck it and dont bother trying? Thats the point I reached. To me there is literally zero fun in going after a seasoned player with a high bounty. They always fight, they never RP, they usually bitch, you need to worry about the onslaught of back-up they have coming, and they always have a shit story to tell you at HQ while they wait for back-up. They are also usually the ones to cry for a higher up and or bitch about robo coping despite their total lack of RP up until that point. Honestly, there should not even be a need for this. Once at the HQ it should be a "here are your charges, pay the ticket, if able, or go to jail". I hate that there is a "standard" that must be reached at the HQ before it is acceptable to process someone. This literally shouldnt even be a concern... Here are your charges. Any attempt to delay processing should get you an obstruction charge and an automatic trip to jail. The civ community has gotten use to the APD's soft stance on standards as it pertains to what is acceptable during processing. They literally get shit on all the time because of this. I bet if you were to track and display how much time is wasted in processing the numbers would be astronomical. Cops should be out detering crime and catching criminals. Not spending all day processing them, or attempting to, at the HQ. I am not trying to overtly attack the APD and its policies, but thats simply my opinion as it pertains to processing and this problem in general. It honestly shoudnt even be a thing...

If all you do is hang out with the senior APD, use their equipment, and travel in numbers then yes you can easily catch or kill people. If you are in a small group, alone, or dont have the resources it is difficult to deal with bigger gangs or even a few experienced players. Especially if you are not a quick peak expert. If you dont get some people right off the bat they just lead you into an ambush. You want to make it easier to get into the HQ and retrieve your peeps, but I dont think you are looking at the situation from every players perspective. When there are just a few cops on, and you want to catch someone with a bounty, you need to locate them, usually chase them, catch them, get them to HQ, and process them. If you die anywhere in between you generally lose. Thats already a significant process. Personally, I dont think most cops want to go through all of that just to have to fight it out at the HQ and lose the person they worked so hard to catch. But again, thats just me. Civs already have ample opportunity to get liberate their guy and escape. Personally, I think the HQ should remain a strong hold that is very difficult to overrun and control. Hell, even if someone misses all of the opportunities to get their person before they make it to the HQ you can still attempt a jail break if they are arrested. I dont really have a dog in this fight. This is just my opinion. I keep seeing suggestions and changes that seem to be removing what it means to be a cop. Cop is less about RP and more about bounty hunting these days. Rarely do I see cops RPing with people. Perhaps this is not the case and I am just in the wrong places at the wrong time. Bottom line, everyone plays cop for different reason. Admittedly, I am a potato when it comes to Arma combat. When I use to play cop it was not to get into a ton of fights. It was to make contacts and RP with people. Occasionally I would end up in a pursuit or shoot out and it was fun, even when I didnt win. However, when every contact is a pursuit and shoot out and the only RP you get is lame processing stories the roll looses its allure. My point being is that the cop roll is unique and as such some things shouldnt be changed for the benefit of the civs. Everyone in the APD should be able to have fun playing regardless of their rank. Is it only designed to be fun when higher ranking people are on? Do you want people to play cop to RP, or to play as a gang of war mongering bounty hunters that concentrates on nothing but fighting

So its already a huge pain in the ass to catch people. Now you want to make it easier to get your people back? Seriously, its a part of the game and its a police HQ. You cannot win every single engagement...

If people are willing to take the risk they dont deserve to play here.

Thanks for the hard work Serpico and Poseidon!

Blacklisted

You asked.

Rank = fucktarded...

Never heard that one before. Last I checked there was just as much shit, if not more, around some of the new cartels. Keep commenting though. I love hearing unoriginal opinions. Who are you?

Give me $1000 bucks and Ill make ya a texture worth while .

Basically dont expect the cops to want to listen to retarded stories during processing after you got done fighting, fleeing, or you have a huge bounty.

I never said that cops dont hunt for bounties. Many do, as they should. Thats the deterrent to being wanted. As to your other statement... You are out of your gourd. No cop in there right mind is going to attempt to engage in legit RP with you, before you are in custody, if you are wanted for more then half a mil. Why is this you may ask? Well let me tell you. Its because no person that is wanted for over a half mil is going to actually sit there and risk getting caught for the sake of RP. What I dont agree with is cops using shit RP to identify you. Personally I think a cop should need probable cause to stop you regardless of how much your bounty is. Also, if you walk into the HQ with a 750,000k bounty and expect them not to hem your ass up immediately then you need to re-evaluate how you play Arma... Lastly, stop finding disgusting gifs. That thing is cringy as fuck...

Well, RDM is never going to go away. As unfortunate as that is. As far as the robocop aspect is concerned. Have you ever played cop? If not then you should play with the APD before you judge. I can honestly say that on the rare occasion that I do play cop I loathe processing. There is nothing more annoying then the person who just attempted to kill you, who ran, or who has a high bounty trying to sit there and RP after the fact to get out of charges. Thats not RP. Thats scrub lord shit. If you want to RP with the cops then do it before you get caught and not after. Once your caught its judgement day and its time to pay up or go to jail, period. People always assume that its because all the cop cares about is money. I am here to tell you I robocop the shit out of people and I dont give a fuck about money. I make traffic stops for fucks sake. I simply want to hook and book and move on so I can go actually try to RP and not sit and listen to some pud who thinks hes clever by being the thousandth person to claim that there illegal firearm is a pellet gun in a special case and all 15 of their manslaughters are self defense... Not saying thats anyone in this thread but it does happen on a regular basis. So next time you are sitting there wondering why the cop is a robocoping its probably because he or she is tired of stupid stories and people stalling so that there gang can come and rescue them.

So rather then getting RDM'd at the ATM you would simply get RDM'd if you walked toward it... Either way the RDMing scrub lord is going to get your money. If this actually got implemented you can bet the next complaint and follow-up rule would be that you cant combat store your money.

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