Dustin87

I only lose 1 in every day, that is 31k with a scope. With the payment tweak it isnt to bad.

We need help. Serious help.

Yes i do feel like this.

So isnt it simple? What is more important? Balance? Or players? Before the wipe gear wasnt valued. But WE HAD FUN. Every time i played it was a blast, i did my run or 2 made my mill and then me and you and POTP would fuck shit up at a fed, or troll kavala. Or hell more drugs! WE HAD FUN. Do i have fun now? Yes. Is it as fun? Not nearly. I agree, the new economy makes sense. but just becuase it makes sense dosent mean it works. It's clear it dosent work. So what are we waiting for? Switch it back, or at least tweak it.

Wonder what his reason to tell you to put his hands up was. Did you have your name written on your sleave?

Well, i think that a little pop up when you spawn that says "Shooting people with no RP is RDM and you will be banned"

Please reduce salt levels.

Hades one thing i keep hearing you say is that another server bought players out. If they didnt like the server better they would have came back after there free money ran out. But they didnt come back did they? not trying to be rude but if you think that is the only reason people switched servers you are sadly mistaken..... You can blame the comunity all you want. But once again, we arent doing anything different we did pre wipe. So why is it a problem now?

Hey you wanna whine and complain about "no rp" "just emergency texts" i dont see you stopping and putting your hands up.....

Ok, the bottom line is that today at 3:30 PST server 2 had 11 people on including me and 2 deputy's. So at the end of the day blame MC all you want, they arent doing anything different from what they did pre wipe so are they really the problem?

Moar whining plz.

I personally am undecided. It is no secret that olympus has reduced in population, but what would happen if we went to one server? Lots of people would lose houses and the gangs that are left would destroy everyone.

I dont think this is the reason. MC and Moob are doing a great thing for the servers in trying to stay away from robbing. But its only a temporary fix. You think MC likes trolling kavala all day? Maybe a little. But what about when MC is done trolling? We go back to the same problem. Dont blame MC. Its not fair to them.

Come one now guys, we talked about it, we know better. Lets all be adults here please.

I dont wanna be rude but this thread went from Sexaul Harrasment isn't ok (which isnt and it was productive) to You cant call me any names because im a girl. I personally joke with my male friends all the time about making them "suck my cock" or other things like that. While i wouldnt condone people constantly harrasing you I.E following you around trying to rape you. But in gunfights i say "oh were gonna rape them". Im not gonna change the way i talk just becuase you are a women. If you guys push to be treated as eqauls in society then im going to treat you as such, if that means i say "suck my cock" to you then so be it. But, once again, going to extremes with it obviously isnt ok. Just like the terrorism stuff, if i yell "alluah akbar" before i detanate my suicide vest that is fine, but going to the extremes like MC isnt. Like i said earlier, if anyone is doing this constantly to you, report it. P.S. I jokingly threaten to rape people all the time, mostly thomas....

If you make a written rule (you really shouldnt have to it should be self explanatory) then could Po+'s send them straight to jail for repeated harrasment? If not we can always charge them 3 times and 3rd time straight jail but just wondering.

Yeah, i mean some fucking around isnt that bad, messing with you a bit maybe, but blatent sexuall harrasment is just plain messed up.

I thought there was a rule section but i couldnt find it.

Sumbitting a ticket with proper proof would be very good. Dont forget to screenshot, might save you a lot of time.

I just checked and i find it troubling there is not a section on Racism/Sexism/Harassment. Our head overlord hades has spoken on the topic in the past and has made it very clear it will NOT be tolerated. For steam its F12 to take a Screen shot. You can upload these and link them in a ban appeal in less than 5 Minutes. Warfare is right, without proof nothing can happen. Warfare call me fukboi 15 times and said he fuk me mum plz halp. Hades plz perm.

Pinkstreak faced the same disrespect and hatred. I am not inoccent of being rude or disrespectfully to certain olympus women. I deeply regret the decision. Screenshot the msg'es next time and Hades will whip out the Orbital Ban Cannon on em'. Im sorry for your troubles. If i see anyone personally disrespecting you or any women ill dome em. If im on Cop ill charge them with verbal insults and send them straight to jail for harresment (as PO allowed to send to jail for blatant server rule breaking, obsesive harrasment seems like blatant rule breaking, if you object as senior APD let me know) .Sorry this happened to you.

Post summary (if not helpfull and annoyin ill delete just though make easier): It seems the common consensus here is we love olympus, but we want change. Notable points: 1:Not enough admins/devs/ Develepor apps are closed. 2:New economy is more balanced, but people dont like it. So what is more important? Balance or players? Pringle: maybe we should get more devs? Fugi: you dont get the point he is making he isnt saying its the best server he is showing what we all want from a server ill be that guy to throw it out there as of now server 2 is dead from mc running them off and tba we are all getting bored of doing the same thing and for someone who is new its hard to recover from a big gang fucking him up over his apples or peaches.. Hades made the perfect comment when mc was on server 1 and told mc to go back to server 2 and stop running ppl off and to me he is right i feel so bad now when i think of how many people i have killed over oil or something stupid so he is not trying to be that persons to flame the server i think what he is trying to say is what we all want from this server the community here is amazing and to move to another server just wont be the same.... all this shows is what can be done without mods Sumthingfishy: you dont get the point he is making he isnt saying its the best server he is showing what we all want from a server ill be that guy to throw it out there as of now server 2 is dead from mc running them off and tba we are all getting bored of doing the same thing and for someone who is new its hard to recover from a big gang fucking him up over his apples or peaches.. Hades made the perfect comment when mc was on server 1 and told mc to go back to server 2 and stop running ppl off and to me he is right i feel so bad now when i think of how many people i have killed over oil or something stupid so he is not trying to be that persons to flame the server i think what he is trying to say is what we all want from this server the community here is amazing and to move to another server just wont be the same.... all this shows is what can be done without mods Fishy again Of course its not that easy but letting the community burn out because "We have mission statement to keep" is ridiculous. Any change made to a server should be done with the intention of keeping/ putting asses in seats. Nerfing the economy was not a popular decision and its blatantly obvious because we cant even keep 2 servers half full now. And by staff I meant all around. I have 3 comp tickets that have been sitting idle for 3 days. That shows me that A) They don't give a fuck or B ) They are under staffed. I would really hope its not because they dont give a fuck. Take on a group of people to be in charge of only tickets/ appeals. I have done these jobs before for other communities so I know its possible to make happen. That's only one example. Fishy again again: Ok so we have all established we don't want to move. We have all established that we like the Olympus community. We have all established a few more features might be nice. What are we going to do with this information. We all know the population is seriously hurting. We are the loyal fan base. What do we want to see happen? BigB: You are right Trenton. We all need to take a step and make the server more welcoming to new players, one way way that I like to RP with some people when I find them driving on the highway is text them: "Please pullover to the shoulder of the road, this is a customs check". I hope and pray for their sake they will pull over for good rps sake. We land and ask for the keys and explain we are just going to make sure there is nothing illegal in the trunk with our guns down the entire time. some will give the keys, the ones that dont we restrain and lockpick the car, if there are illegal items, yes we rob the car, take the drugs and set them on their way, but if no illegal goods, they pass the check and give them a lollipop. I really try to make people feel safe to do legal goods, there should be about no risk if you are following the law. Lets try to help the server people, lets not rob people who are doing legal goods, its like 20k for you, and thats nothing... Do your part role-play the situation, that is why we are all here anyhow. ODIN: The number one thing I am seeing in this thread are comments like the following: We need more staff. We need more developers. We want more features. What I am NOT seeing are people OFFERING to help. As it has been stated multiple times in this thread, one does not simply become a developer or a staff member. There have been other developers in the past and they are all but gone because as it was also stated "people are people." Not everyone wants to take the hard road and WORK to make something for our community, they'd rather copy/paste it and claim it as their own. That is not Olympus, we do not steal from other communities. We have been burned and it takes time for burns to heal and until someone is willing to step up and say "I'd like to help, can I put together a little package of code that would let Olympus do <insert concept>?" then why should we reach out and ask? This is a community, which means everyone should be willing to help out and most people do. The same goes for adding the the pool of staff. Anyone may apply for a staff position, provided that you meet the requirements. The problem is, no one wants to give up being in a gang or wants to dedicate the time to apply and wait while your application is evaluated. People want power and in most cases, they abuse it. I'm sure it would be amazing to have more staff but my own personal opinion, there are very few people that I would trust with the ability to issue bans, respond to comp requests and be entrusted with what staff are given. As for developing new features for the community, we have Poseidon. Poseidon has a life that he has to keep a handle on besides just writing code for us. Not everyone can sit at their screen all day, people have lives that take priority. New features are planned, however new features are useless if existing features don't work properly. Point proven, Poseidon is working on fixing the issues with housing, who doesn't want a house? I know that this post is coming across as me essentially saying to stop your bitching and I apologize for that, however I can easily count the number of times that someone has publicly offered to help and the times that someone has said they're going to put something together even if it isn't going to be used. Last thing before I quit ranting, new players. This is talked about constantly, how new players are run off the servers because it is so hard to get a foot in the door. Try not robbing them blind? Instead of robbing someone new.. assign a member of your gang (maybe the new guy... because FNG) to go with the new person. Their job? Watch them, perhaps protect them and after the run is over, a "protection fee" is paid out. This benefits all parties, the new players gets their money, the FNG of your gang has to deal with being the FNG and you guys get money. Robbing people blind only pushes people away and no one wants people to leave. Negative side of my post finished, there are some cool features on the list that would be amazing to have on Olympus. Personally I think it would be cool to have the oil rigs and underwater oil cartel, which would give a whole new dynamic for civ/civ and civ/cop interactions. Plus the APD boats could be used more often as that would be yet another thing on the water that could be patrolled. Same with the prestige system, that way you have donator perks but those that can't afford to donate can still get some cool items with the large amounts of money. Gator AKA THE GOAT: Speaking freely here... From having experience running a gameserver, community, and being a server developer, I can say i've never seen such a pathetic staff. I mean there are four? five? ....nope, TWELVE staff members, perhaps you should begin giving people roles and responsibilities. The fact that a ticket is submitted for 3 days+ and never gets reviewed proves this. I could do this on my phone when i'm bored at work. And its not only the ticket reviewing but whatever happened to server events. I play during prime time hours every night (which is when events should be happening) and I haven't seen a server event go down in along time. If your staff can't find any interest to be here and be online then perhaps you should find some people that are. I know trust is a large factor in giving power because it can be so easily abused... but aslong as its monitored(by a head admin) then there shouldn't be any issues. And perhaps the rules need to be cleaned up too. There are to many and it's beginning to make the gameplay feel like your walking on a single path. Let people adventure and have fun, instead it's oh that guy was 5meters outside the redzone so 3 day ban for rdm. 30 day because that players been banned twice before since he's played here for 6 or 8 months. The server suffers from lack of players, maybe because your banning all the active ones and people want to play with friends. Iguf: All i am saying is something needs to be done. you can't keep defending all the time at the end of the day the only thing that matters is the low population on the server ME: This is the bottom line, whether we like it or not at the end of the day, the servers have about half the population they did pre-wipe, Lots of people are switching to different servers, one of the most notable gangs to ever play olympus has even switched in favor of a different server. Oh yeah, by not letting me use "Mecka" in a sentence, not even advertising it shows me how scared you are. Jus saying. I love this server, and call it my home but for real..... I mean there are four? five? ....nope, TWELVE staff members, never ^ this is a eye opener for me, didnt realize that there was 12 staff 0_0 Moob coming in clutch: I want this out there, I love this place. I've played here for a long time, and a lot of the members of my group have been with me in that time. over 1k hours on the server alone, more unrecorded (3.4k hours on ARMA).. And I've watched the slow deterioration of the player base. I have strong loyalties to somewhere I've devoted so much time/effort to. I only want it to continue. I would do anything to help, but I know myself, I do not fall under the category of ''Staff Material'' So, saying you're understaffed, yet even your most of loyal players are not allowed to help, bit strange.. And I'm going to Dive into the unknown here which is take a shot at the admins, which from what I've seen from every comment against the admins ever, will result in hell-fired fury. Only about half of the staff members actually give a shit about what goes on here, maybe I'll be spared if I don't name them, But half of them don't even play the server (Arma?) anymore. Why would you keep your position which is almost like a community rep when you don't give a fuck about it all? Get rid / Replace. Thanks for the service, but if you don't want to continue to help anymore, then thanks, but goodbye. My opinion on that. before I am lambasted for it. take a step back and look at the staff. I know those that do care, and those who do not. REFER TO ARMENDS BEAST ASS POST Jorbis on Admins being APD and R&R: Members of the Senior APD have already been trusted with a position that requires lots of responsibility, same deal with Odin. He switched to Head R&R Coordinator from R&R Coordinator after Hades decided that he should leave the group in his hands. As it has already been mentioned, members of the community need to be HEAVILY trusted before they can even be considered to be accepted as a staff member. Members within the community that are already trusted ie: high ranks of monitored organizations, stand a much better chance of becoming a staff member as their performance, determination, management and so on can be easily recognized and vouched for. +1