Re-creating Altis Life?

[Poseidon 3271]

I'm considering maybe starting Altis Life from the ground up (with some of the code already used). Here's some of the differences I've thought of so far:

 

-Move things client side to help server performance: By default all objects placed on the map or spawned in are global, the server calculates physics on those objects (if simulation is enabled), sends network updates, and whenever a player joins they are sent the current state of those objects. It's possible with a different method to make objects local to the person who created it only. So no one on the map see's that object, receives updates, or calculates physics on it. This means things like decorative objects/static objects can all be spawned in locally whenever a player connects. Each player would spawn in the same objects when they connect, so everyone see's the same thing, but the server wouldn't (shouldn't, who knows with arma) know those objects existed.

 

-The same thing above can be done with map markers, or at-least the static markers that do not change like shops and stuff. This means script kiddies wouldn't be able to modify markers for other players (like they've done 2 or 3 times the last few days, although i put an end to that). It also means you could toggle which markers you want visible. For example if you never do legal items, you can just set it up to not display legal markers. These settings can be saved in your arma 3 profile so they're the same after restarts too.

 

-NPC animations : they were experimented with in the past but caused performance issues. With client side npc's and such it may be easier to do animations without issues. So instead of lifeless shops you have someone who moves, is maybe sitting down, etc.

 

-More immersion : For example instead of going to a frozen npc and selecting a car from a menu, you would go to a car dealership building, go inside the building and all available vehicles would be on show. You go up to each one to see its stats and pick the one you want, you can then either drive it away or if that isnt possible one is spawned around by a garage. Or a police headquarters could have an interrogation room with 1 way mirrors. These buildings would likely be constructed out of a series of other objects, or if possible maybe an optional mod pack with these buildings. On connection it would check if the player had the mod pack, if they did not it would just spawn in the series of objects that resemble the shape of the building.

 

-Better UI/Menus. Maybe a cellphone for texting players and some other stuff (could also implement a phone number system, where you must get someones number before being able to text them, this would be a lot better for RP). I've already started work on making the framework for menus, so far all menus have cool animations, like smoothly sliding out from the right of the screen, and sliding back away when closed. Fading in, expanding in from the center, 2 menus slide in from both sides towards the center of the screen, or slide up from bottom. Here's an example of the simple menus i've made so far: http://imgur.com/a/QobYe

 

-More activities like laser tag and other mini games.

 

-Level system maybe? Like the more you gather, the faster you can gather in the future. (if you're interested in this idea leave your suggestions for different skills to level and perks)

 

-Better revive/injury system. If a player gets downed they don't actually die, they bleed out, can be dragged, etc.

 

-Better escort system, instead of forcing the player to stand still multiple levels of restraint can be used. Hands only restraint would allow the player to move, but is forced to walk. Restraining a second time would completely stop them though.

 

It'd take a ton of work to do the above stuff and re-create Altis Life. But I feel that if we want to make changes as big as the ones above, it'd be less troublesome to start from the ground up. Server performance is pretty crap currently and if we start from the ground up and do it right the first time, performance should be better allowing more players and less desync.

 

What's your opinion/feedback/suggestions? Remember none of this is guaranteed, it's just ideas/speculation. It'd take a good while to complete this task even if I decide to do so. So don't get your hopes up. I've still got a month or so until my classes end as well, so i'm slightly limited.

[DeathDingo 130]

Wow, Poseidon this would be the greatest thing ever in my opinion. I really hope all this happens and I would help in any way that I could!!!

[Warfare 498]

I think if you are willing to put the time in then go for it. From what you have listed I would rather play that version of altis life then the current one. 

[Pinkstreak 188]

I love this!! I love where the community is headed and that the staff really do care about the community! Great job and please keep up the amazing work! If there is anything I can do to help please dont hesitate to ask!

[D3V1L 163]

As long as no wipe. I'm all aboard.

[saVag3 21]

a lot is good , but what if we are flying and robbing someone, how can we text them if we do not have their number? Rdm ftw? Also, the drag system would be awesome !

The rules would have to be modified to work around that.

 

Poseidon why should it continue to be Altis? I would love a new place other than Altis to play in and there are tons of community made maps out there. Hell you could even make your own if you are good with that kind of stuff. The ideas you have listed are great, I will be keeping a close eye on this!

[Warfare 498]

The rules would have to be modified to work around that.

 

Poseidon why should it continue to be Altis? I would love a new place other than Altis to play in and there are tons of community made maps out there. Hell you could even make your own if you are good with that kind of stuff. The ideas you have listed are great, I will be keeping a close eye on this!

 

The problem with doing his own map is the server would be a modded server and players would have to download files to play. 

[saVag3 21]

Well if the rework goes to plan I think it would bring in many more players. Maybe if olympus hits 3 servers again a 4th server could a complete mod server that uses the same DB for money.

[Warfare 498]

Well if the rework goes to plan I think it would bring in many more players. Maybe if olympus hits 3 servers again a 4th server could a complete mod server that uses the same DB for money.

 

From what I'm seen and heard I don't see this new altis life and the old one working together, meaning they would be completely different servers. Also if done correctly we could make the new altis life feel like a completely new map.

[Poseidon 3271]

The rules would have to be modified to work around that.

 

Poseidon why should it continue to be Altis? I would love a new place other than Altis to play in and there are tons of community made maps out there. Hell you could even make your own if you are good with that kind of stuff. The ideas you have listed are great, I will be keeping a close eye on this!

Because custom maps require players to download that map seperately before joining our server. I beleive Bohemia is working on a system to download mods directly from the server on connection, but i'm not sure if that'll ever be a thing. Although I do plan on making it multi-map compatible. Meaning it would be made very easy to throw the mission on another map and the code would work.

 

 

From what I'm seen and heard I don't see this new altis life and the old one working together, meaning they would be completely different servers. Also if done correctly we could make the new altis life feel like a completely new map.

I plan on keeping the database side of things relatively similar to avoid having to wipe anything.

[Warfare 498]

Because custom maps require players to download that map seperately before joining our server. I beleive Bohemia is working on a system to download mods directly from the server on connection, but i'm not sure if that'll ever be a thing. Although I do plan on making it multi-map compatible. Meaning it would be made very easy to throw the mission on another map and the code would work.

 

 

I plan on keeping the database side of things relatively similar to avoid having to wipe anything.

 

I stand corrected boys and Pink. 

[Brry 15]

Plus 1 out with the old in with the new.

[Muthinator 3064]

Sounds pretty awesome!  Whats the time frame if implemented? 

[Nick5523 49]

How about an Arma 3 Life server?

you could create a PlayWithSix mod list with any custom mods the community may want

and keep the original altis life servers running

[Warfare 498]

Sounds pretty awesome!  Whats the time frame if implemented? 

 

I can't speak for Poseidon but my guess with his schooling and the amount of work needed for something like this we are looking at a fairly decent amount of time. 

[Lethals Loaded 1224]

With three highly skilled developers the possibilities are endless whereas right now they are limited. I'm sure Gucci can add a lot of cool site -> game features and vice versa.

It will take time, yes, but it will eliminate a lot of the bugs and exploits right now such as loosing weapon etc.

 

I am into a massive yes for getting this project going!

[Muthinator 3064]

Copy that.  I was just curious if such a big change would be a late summer thing or a next year type deal.  Im not worried.  Either way I am not going anywhere.

[Nattyboh 6]

agree with this, As long as no money wipe again go ahead!

 

 

 

Yes pls no, id die if i saw all the cry posts from rusty again.

[QKSILVR73 257]

[Jaden Wilson 7]

HELL YAH!!!

[Bubbaloo - Reusable P Cup 3028]

OMG. That would be the greatest thing ever. I think we are ready for this. To the staff members.. thank you for believing in Olympus and always having our back. I hope we can get this implemented in the near future. Love it.

[Watermelone 168]

Id be all for this, I think even if you hired more devs, anyone on the server with experience I'm sure people would be willing to help to get this done, Id help if theres anything I could do, and with summer coming up people will in most ways be more available. there would be lots of potenial and different features that could be worked in with this, and i feel it would drag new poeple in since it would make this server more unique not like all the other normal altis life servers.

 

Just let us keep our money and vehicles <3

[dannyfrog87 45]

would be good for it to be something new the desync lately is awful. im all for it if it works out well. providing no wipe of our money and it stays as it is or all we have obtained and gained .... im sure no one wants to start over a third time ....

[Jaden Wilson 7]

would be good for it to be something new the desync lately is awful. im all for it if it works out well. providing no wipe of our money and it stays as it is or all we have obtained and gained .... im sure no one wants to start over a third time ....

Sir, I am sure there has only been one wipe.

[dannyfrog87 45]