Exploiting

[Vengy 101]

What’s the severity of a ban for using the known exploit to look through the walls of a building to gain tactical advantages?

I’m not going to give instruction on how to do it but I’m pretty sure everyone who plays the game enough knows what I’m talking about.

Edit:

For context, my buddy and I each have a pov of two people clearly exploiting to gain tactical advantages. Both individuals have been unban within a few hours. This sets a precedent that was surprising to me. 

Edited 21 hours ago by Vengy

[hawkg 117]

There is no consistency with the rules and unbans 

[silton 4991]

What group are they in?

Also it should be a one day. Depends on the admin though.

[ben- 802]

7 minutes ago, silton said:

What group are they in?

Also it should be a one day. Depends on the admin though.

aegis so they got unbanned 

[silton 4991]

2 minutes ago, ben- said:

aegis so they got unbanned 

Was thinking that

[David Miller 889]

Ban times are progressive. The length of an exploiting ban depends on how many times a player has been banned in the past 2 months and how long the last ban was. The policy is on our Wiki at https://wiki.olympus-entertainment.com/wiki/Ban_Times

The first ban is 1 day, the 2nd is 2 days, 3rd is 3 days, 4th is 5 days, and so on per that policy. 

Bans can be appealed, and leniency can be given by the banning admin. The policies for that are on the same page. 

[Vengy 101]

15 minutes ago, David Miller said:

Ban times are progressive. The length of an exploiting ban depends on how many times a player has been banned in the past 2 months and how long the last ban was. The policy is on our Wiki at https://wiki.olympus-entertainment.com/wiki/Ban_Times

The first ban is 1 day, the 2nd is 2 days, 3rd is 3 days, 4th is 5 days, and so on per that policy. 

Bans can be appealed, and leniency can be given by the banning admin. The policies for that are on the same page. 

Thanks for sharing. So the odds of these individuals being caught exploiting in combat like this is extremely unlikely since they can do it behind a wall. Is the moral of the story, exploit but don’t get caught too much? It’s super easy to do and you can do it to any wall. The whole game revolves around combat, so it’s just unfair that the ban is so light for this.
I am not the type to do runs or exploit, but if I was I would sit in processor looking through walls the entire time to make sure no one is sneaking up lol…. 

27 minutes ago, silton said:

What group are they in?

Also it should be a one day. Depends on the admin though.

No, it was two individuals from hot shots but they were part of a larger group at the time. 

Edited 21 hours ago by Vengy

[David Miller 889]

12 minutes ago, Vengy said:

Thanks for sharing. So the odds of these individuals being caught exploiting in combat like this is extremely unlikely since they can do it behind a wall. Is the moral of the story, exploit but don’t get caught too much? It’s super easy to do and you can do it to any wall. The whole game revolves around combat, so it’s just unfair that the ban is so light for this.
I am not the type to do runs, but if I was I would sit in processor looking through walls the entire time to make sure no one is sneaking up lol…. 

Unfortunatly your not crazy off base. It is pretty easy for players to get away with wall-peaking like that without getting caught, and yeah, smart players understand that if they only get caught doing it a little, punishments will be pretty light, but anyone caught doing it with any kind of regularity gets identifed and leeway becomes harder to argue for. 

I will say we do spectate periodically and will live ban people we catch backpacking to gain unfair advantages. Backpacking and DPI are somewhat just a part of the fun, even if it's not fun at all.

We catch most repeat offenders due to player reports from people like you tho, so just because your one report may not have had the result you might be hoping for doesn't mean you haven't made that person a lot more watched, and less likely to get reductions in the future, and it is appreciated. 

[silton 4991]

1 minute ago, David Miller said:

will say we do spectate periodically and will live ban people we catch backpacking to gain unfair advantages.

I was under the impression that this was no longer done/frowned upon after the mighty/rexo spectate gate.

13 minutes ago, Vengy said:

hot shots

@ Milo Makes me sick

[David Miller 889]

Just now, silton said:

I was under the impression that this was no longer done/frowned upon after mighty/rexo spectate gate.

We moved the bar around a little, but admins are still allowed to spectate and live-ban for backpacking, especially if they are known backpackers or if we are getting reports about someone backpacking. But generally, admins shouldn't be looking for people to ban, and instead, look to resolve issues or correct behavior. 

[Vengy 101]

3 minutes ago, David Miller said:

Unfortunatly your not crazy off base. It is pretty easy for players to get away with wall-peaking like that without getting caught, and yeah, smart players understand that if they only get caught doing it a little, punishments will be pretty light, but anyone caught doing it with any kind of regularity gets identifed and leeway becomes harder to argue for. 

I will say we do spectate periodically and will live ban people we catch backpacking to gain unfair advantages. Backpacking and DPI are somewhat just a part of the fun, even if it's not fun at all.

We catch most repeat offenders due to player reports from people like you tho, so just because your one report may not have had the result you might be hoping for doesn't mean you haven't made that person a lot more watched, and less likely to get reductions in the future, and it is appreciated. 

I appreciate the input. I wish the punishment was that of cheating but I’ll just have to play with the assumption everyone can see through walls

[Big Boss Fredo 1762]

Truth is everybody does this, don’t get mad get even my boy @ Vengy

[Milo 1371]

11 minutes ago, silton said:

@ Milo Makes me sick

I haven't touched any of my gang members bans

[Millennium 6289]

9 minutes ago, Vengy said:

I appreciate the input. I wish the punishment was that of cheating but I’ll just have to play with the assumption everyone can see through walls

That would be a very harsh punishment for such a simple exploit. Everyone and their grandmother would be permed if we enforced it that harshly.

[silton 4991]

1 minute ago, Millennium said:

That would be a very harsh punishment for such a simple exploit. Everyone and their grandmother would be permed if we enforced it that harshly.

Verbal warning for some. 

[Vengy 101]

1 minute ago, Millennium said:

That would be a very harsh punishment for such a simple exploit. Everyone and their grandmother would be permed if we enforced it that harshly.

Fair...but 2 hours? I don't even understand how someone can look at their appeal and feel compassion lol

[silton 4991]

12 minutes ago, Vengy said:

Fair...but 2 hours? I don't even understand how someone can look at their appeal and feel compassion lol

Gotta farm those staff points

[Saul Goodman 137]

staff have been trolling lately, handing out warnings and 4 hour bans just to keep the pop up. It’s either that or @ ZeroBlade is so short he can’t see the video evidence. 

[Grandpa Bob 27]

4 hours ago, silton said:

What group are they in?

Also it should be a one day. Depends on the admin though.

how are you chiming in on this when you get outta every ban handed to you cause of who you know. even when the bans are extremely valid? 

[Capone 8]

Per experience, exploiter can pay out $100K comp n they won’t be banned. 

[silton 4991]

3 hours ago, Grandpa Bob said:

how are you chiming in on this when you get outta every ban handed to you cause of who you know. even when the bans are extremely valid? 

I haven't got out of a deserved ban in a long time.

Everyone else is dodging bans a lot more than me.

[Type03 80]

@ Vengy  No Hot shot gang member of mine does any dirty exploits 

[Morga 18]

U know what’s funny the fact you most likely do it yourself 

[Vengy 101]

7 hours ago, Type03 said:

@ Vengy  No Hot shot gang member of mine does any dirty exploits 

Well I have two povs saying different 

[Morga 18]

53 minutes ago, Vengy said:

Well I have two povs saying different 

lol rich coming from someone who breaks rule cry