RPGs at feds

[Peach Collector 63]

Maybe has something to do with a certain gang mass RPGing anyone else who tries to do a fed/BW

Just prohibit use of RPGs at federal events, it's boring and nobody wants to do feds with staff point gayjizz rocket spam

Edited December 21, 2022 by Peach Collector

[JordanBeatCoivd 106]

You can't ban rpg's because people are using them effectively lol.

Might as well ban at's if u ban rpgs people will resort to ats and on and on.

[Peach Collector 63]

Just now, JordanBeatCoivd said:

You can't ban rpg's because people are using them effectively lol.

Very effective at making people not want to do feds

Only weirdos could get a thrill out of rocketing stationary civ vehicles

10 minutes ago, JordanBeatCoivd said:

Might as well ban at's if u ban rpgs people will resort to ats and on and on.

Go ahead- drive your AT to a federal event see how that goes 

[JordanBeatCoivd 106]

5 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

Very effective at making people not want to do feds

Only weirdos could get a thrill out of rocketing stationary civ vehicles

Go

ahead- drive your AT to a federal event see how that goes 

 

you dont drive an at to a fed u park it on the hill and rain fire bud.  Feds arent handed out you have to be good to do them that means killing roaches 

[Peach Collector 63]

6 minutes ago, JordanBeatCoivd said:

Feds arent handed out you have to be good to do them that means killing roaches 

ZZZZ sounds allot like you're self aware you'd get clapped in a peek battle, you know you'd get clapped if you tried actually stealing the loot, so you use rockets to grief as a crutch for your fragile ego

[JordanBeatCoivd 106]

4 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

ZZZZ sounds allot like you're self aware you'd get clapped in a peek battle, you know you'd get clapped if you tried actually stealing the loot, so you use rockets to grief as a crutch for your fragile ego

ur a medic bro i have neve rpged a fed truck what are you on about? Ur just dogshit and losing feds to roaches imagine. I have roached so many feds before and gotten out with gold Stop crying that people are using rpg's for what they are made for.

ur ego is getting the best of u lol ur the one mas spamming clown control ur emotions 

Edited December 21, 2022 by JordanBeatCoivd

[Peach Collector 63]

6 minutes ago, JordanBeatCoivd said:

My KD is worse than a medic and I cannot get enough warpoints to buy an RPG. I once snuck into an abandoned fed and got a backpack of gold. I only pretend to be retarded in hopes that Aegis sees these comments and invite me to their gang because I am down bad for friends.

[JordanBeatCoivd 106]

5 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

20 minutes ago, JordanBeatCoivd said:

My KD is worse than a medic and I cannot get enough warpoints to buy an RPG. I once snuck into an abandoned fed and got a backpack of gold. I only pretend to be retarded in hopes that Aegis sees these comments and invite me to their gang because I am down bad for friends.

if only you knew retard ahahah

[Blackout2991 5]

2 hours ago, JordanBeatCoivd said:

You can't ban rpg's because people are using them effectively lol.

Might as well ban at's if u ban rpgs people will resort to ats and on and on.

explosives are already banned for police escorts. While I don't think RPGs should be banned at federal events, I don't think it is necessarily an unreasonable extension of the explosives ban. Also, bringing AT vehicles will add more risk, considering they're more expensive than RPGs, so if anything that is more preferred.

[JordanBeatCoivd 106]

21 minutes ago, Blackout2991 said:

explosives are already banned for police escorts. While I don't think RPGs should be banned at federal events, I don't think it is necessarily an unreasonable extension of the explosives ban. Also, bringing AT vehicles will add more risk, considering they're more expensive than RPGs, so if anything that is more preferred.

Well yes of course. Thats why i'm saying if rpgs get banned you might as well ban ats. 

[Fefe 41]

You are just dogshit at the game, deal with it and buy an rpg whenever u do a fed and stop crying.

[monster 5665]

4 hours ago, Peach Collector said:

Just prohibit use of RPGs at federal events, it's boring and nobody wants to do feds with staff point gayjizz rocket spam

Given the main people who RPG at feds (Myself/Kyle/Revise) don't have any form of staff points, your argument is kind of flawed here, the people who RPG have legit warpoints that were either bought or gained through conquest/killing people.

 

4 hours ago, Peach Collector said:

Ah yes, lets compare Aegis, to the Southern Shiners. You're essentially comparing us to less experienced gangs, or gangs with a fraction of our hours, very good argument.

[Peach Collector 63]

3 hours ago, monster said:

Ah yes, lets compare Aegis, to the Southern Shiners. You're essentially comparing us to less experienced gangs, or gangs with a fraction of our hours, very good argument.

I didn't compare Aegis to Southern Shiners. These are simply the stats. Not a single BW item/vic is being sold by Teamplayers, Dankpods, 88, Tilde, or any other comparable-hours gang.

3 hours ago, monster said:

Given the main people who RPG at feds (Myself/Kyle/Revise) don't have any form of staff points, your argument is kind of flawed here, the people who RPG have legit warpoints that were either bought or gained through conquest/killing people.

The source of the RPGs is a meme and besides the main point; ultimately, the people who are RPGing feds have relatively unlimited resources and risk practically nothing by bringing an RPG to fed. Meanwhile, other people who are doing the feds with far less resources lose everything with very little effort and reasonable counterplay. 

As what Blackout pointed out, blowing up an event (Pharma, Escorts) is already prohibited for the exact same reason I'm describing. It's just griefing. I do not care if someone roaches and tries to win a firefight and possibly steal the loot for themselves, that is fair and in good sport of the game, but blowing everything up is straight retarded.

[Mako 3506]

4 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

I didn't compare Aegis to Southern Shiners. These are simply the stats. Not a single BW item/vic is being sold by Teamplayers, Dankpods, 88, Tilde, or any other comparable-hours gang.

The source of the RPGs is a meme and besides the main point; ultimately, the people who are RPGing feds have relatively unlimited resources and risk practically nothing by bringing an RPG to fed. Meanwhile, other people who are doing the feds with far less resources lose everything with very little effort and reasonable counterplay. 

As what Blackout pointed out, blowing up an event (Pharma, Escorts) is already prohibited for the exact same reason I'm describing. It's just griefing. I do not care if someone roaches and tries to win a firefight and possibly steal the loot for themselves, that is fair and in good sport of the game, but blowing everything up is straight retarded.

Just going to cut this up.

Teamplayers, Dankpods, and Tilde do not play. 88 rarely poses the numbers to do a Federal Event or anything like-wise.

The source of you claiming that the majority of the RPGs are staff spawned is definitely a selling point of your argument, when he just shit on it proving you wrong you're folding lol.

https://stats.olympus-entertainment.com/#/stats/players/76561198285681646 - The person who RPGs you frequently. 1.5m, 1.5m deposit and 2600 WP to his name (not counting house items). We just like everyone else have finite resources, the RPGs are the only way to make the APD lose anything as you simply do not lose money on the faction at all. It's a financial war.

If your suggestion were simply to say "Stop allowing RPGs to be utilized against Gold Trucks/High capacity vehicles" I'd be with you. You don't seem to understand that everyone tries to RPG each other though over gang beefs. Aegis RPGs Type57, Type57 RPGs Aegis, Tilde Titans/RPGs Aegis, etc. It genuinely isn't as one sided as this and spans back to Cabal Fed season with @ Tyrone  taking matters into his own hands.

 

[Peach Collector 63]

4 hours ago, Fefe said:

You are just dogshit at the game, deal with it and buy an rpg whenever u do a fed and stop crying.

Delusional or bad b8. Calls other people bad while being too scared to engage in a firefight.

We get it, you're a weird sped who gets high off griefing. Your life will be in shambles when there's nobody left to grief

[Noble 1832]

How is it griefing? also whoever told you most RPG's are "spawned" in is delusional. I don't know a single staff member who even used their staff points. for the record we cant just click button and suit up with an RPG like a fucking power ranger or avenger.

[ares 395]

1 minute ago, Noble said:

How is it griefing? also whoever told you most RPG's are "spawned" in is delusional. I don't know a single staff member who even used their staff points. for the record we cant just click button and suit up with an RPG like a fucking power ranger or avenger.

You mean you can’t turn into a transformer and switch from civ clothes to full T5 granits and a lynx? Lies

[monster 5665]

21 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

I didn't compare Aegis to Southern Shiners. These are simply the stats. Not a single BW item/vic is being sold by Teamplayers, Dankpods, 88, Tilde, or any other comparable-hours gang.

The source of the RPGs is a meme and besides the main point; ultimately, the people who are RPGing feds have relatively unlimited resources and risk practically nothing by bringing an RPG to fed. Meanwhile, other people who are doing the feds with far less resources lose everything with very little effort and reasonable counterplay. 

As what Blackout pointed out, blowing up an event (Pharma, Escorts) is already prohibited for the exact same reason I'm describing. It's just griefing. I do not care if someone roaches and tries to win a firefight and possibly steal the loot for themselves, that is fair and in good sport of the game, but blowing everything up is straight retarded.

Over the past 2 weeks (since I started RPGing consistantly) I've used near 2.4k warpoints, roughly $30m+ to repurchase said warpoints, I have 1/10th that in my bank so I'm risking a pretty fair amount.

IIRC APD escort is currently the only event that is off limits to RPGs and that is mainly due to the fact that there is a price tag on starting said event, Pharmas and other events are still free game.

[Peach Collector 63]

3 minutes ago, monster said:

IIRC APD escort is currently the only event that is off limits to RPGs and that is mainly due to the fact that there is a price tag on starting said event, Pharmas and other events are still free game.

Just rechecked rules and yeah I suppose pharma was not included with the escort, my mistake.

That logic for protecting APD escort bc of the cost but not other events is kinda mid because all events have a price tag to start called their kits and vehicles. Civs can easily lose just as much money in trucks at a fed as APD can with an escort.

While I was reviewing the rules, I found another prohibited use of explosives: "Players may not utilize RPGs, Mines and Explosive charges/IEDS at the Gangbase Skirmish". Curious that the one gang that perma holds gang base is protected from explosives when they stand to lose their ghawk spawn pad. I'm sure they'd complain about it being unfair.

 

ps. I appreciate your openness to actual discussion instead of low effort b8

[monster 5665]

4 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

Just rechecked rules and yeah I suppose pharma was not included with the escort, my mistake.

That logic for protecting APD escort bc of the cost but not other events is kinda mid because all events have a price tag to start called their kits and vehicles. Civs can easily lose just as much money in trucks at a fed as APD can with an escort.

While I was reviewing the rules, I found another prohibited use of explosives: "Players may not utilize RPGs, Mines and Explosive charges/IEDS at the Gangbase Skirmish". Curious that the one gang that perma holds gang base is protected from explosives when they stand to lose their ghawk spawn pad. I'm sure they'd complain about it being unfair.

 

ps. I appreciate your openness to actual discussion instead of low effort b8

The rule for gang base was added because when cabal was a thing we would have 5+ RPGs blowing up every ifrit that tried to push and the area around gang base would be filled with easily 50 slam mines. Explosives is actually more cancer for the attackers and make it relatively easy for defenders.

[Peach Collector 63]

21 minutes ago, Noble said:

How is it griefing?

[Rafa 2830]

15 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

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You just disproved your own claim considering it seems like they’re being used in away that aligns with the “primary objective” of federal events. I agree that it can be AIDS but it’s within the rules and at a significant expense to the people using them so I don’t think that banning them is warranted tbh 

[Zombie Mall Cop 252]

Im surprised more people dont bring RPGs to fed then everyone get scared to pull armor based off the loss theyll take money wise 

[Peach Collector 63]

53 minutes ago, monster said:

The rule for gang base was added because when cabal was a thing we would have 5+ RPGs blowing up every ifrit that tried to push and the area around gang base would be filled with easily 50 slam mines. Explosives is actually more cancer for the attackers and make it relatively easy for defenders.

In that context yeah explosives are OP for defenders. It's not reasonable to expect attackers to push into a red zone mine field in the limitations of a life server.

In the context of a federal event, they're OP for attackers. It's not reasonable to expect defenders to fight 10-20 cops AND search/kill every single civ in Telos, prevent civs from spawning at their Telos houses, prevent them from being revived, + cover a 1km radius, + dodge rockets on the way to gold trader in a vic that moves 70km/hr, all to prevent the potential that one guy can destroy the whole event in one easy click from a bush, window, frit drop, or impenetrable tower.

It's not reasonable, it's not fun, and people will simply stop doing feds. If that's what admins want, then keep it as is. Just wanted to inform staff of the sentiment of non-aegis-affiliated players in regards to fed and open a public discussion about it.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Peach Collector

[Peach Collector 63]

25 minutes ago, Rafa said:

You just disproved your own claim considering it seems like they’re being used in away that aligns with the “primary objective” of federal events. I agree that it can be AIDS but it’s within the rules and at a significant expense to the people using them so I don’t think that banning them is warranted tbh 

The primary objective for civs at a fed event at a Server perspective is to gain loot in self-interest. That is the intended gameplay mechanic. Denying other people from getting loot is intended to be a secondary objective. Crab mentality is not the purpose of the game or nothing would ever happen.

Never suggested banning people who have done it in the past

Admins are our congress people who are supposed to write/enforce rules in the best interest of the community and server. It's a game. Rules are intended to keep the game fun and fair. Rules are not written in stone. The rules should be modified if the majority of people can agree what is fair and fun within the confines of the Life RP archetype.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Peach Collector