Change rules to not allow destruction of event vehicles

[Peach Collector 63]

Make it similar rule to VDM- you can blow up vehicles at a fed at your own risk, but if you blow up a vic that has gear/gold/money bags/pharma in it, you're liable for comp.

1. Destroying event vehicles is too easy for how big of an impact it has, due to the predictable structure and nature of events.

The only purpose of the rules regarding RVD is to prevent excessive griefing- otherwise RVD would not be against the rules.

1. This kind of change follows that precedent.

2. There's really no reasonable reason to allow events to be RVD'd/griefed and skirting the rule by saying "people were near it" because you are required to be near/in the vehicle per the event.

Edited January 21, 2023 by Peach Collector

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what

[Fuzz^ 243]

what

[Caleb Snackbar 198]

He’s saying don’t allow rpging etc of pharma trucks and other event vehicles

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14 minutes ago, Caleb Snackbar said:

He’s saying don’t allow rpging etc of pharma trucks and other event vehicles

It's currently not allowed

[monster 5630]

8 minutes ago, destruct said:

It's currently not allowed

what? IIRC the rpg rule only applies to the apd escort truck?

[Mr GOAT 2081]

15 minutes ago, destruct said:

It's currently not allowed

cite your source sir

[Peach Collector 63]

16 minutes ago, destruct said:

It's currently not allowed

you would think, because it's common sense

10 minutes ago, monster said:

what? IIRC the rpg rule only applies to the apd escort truck?

because it would be just AWFUL if senior apd could be griefed after investing time/money into their event 

[The Antichrist 213]

Big downvote. noooooo... Blowing up gold and moneybag trucks is my life's work.

[Peach Collector 63]

7 minutes ago, Femboy Destroyer said:

Big downvote. noooooo... Blowing up gold and moneybag trucks is my life's work.

jpostman jr

[The Antichrist 213]

5 minutes ago, Peach Collector said:

jpostman jr

That kid goes after new players doing legal runs.  I go after the largest gangs on the server. WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

[milos inflated dev2 ego 4366]

4 hours ago, Femboy Destroyer said:

Big downvote. noooooo... Blowing up gold and moneybag trucks is my life's work.

thats becasuse your a feminist and feminists are faggots under olympus code section 3b if im not mistaken

[The Antichrist 213]

Just now, Chief of Geese said:

thats becasuse your a feminist and feminists are faggots under olympus code section 3b if im not mistaken

Don't come at me with your legal jargon.  

[NahBruhNotToday 74]

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11 hours ago, monster said:

what? IIRC the rpg rule only applies to the apd escort truck?

 

11 hours ago, Mr GOAT said:

cite your source sir

 

11 hours ago, Peach Collector said:

you would think, because it's common sense

because it would be just AWFUL if senior apd could be griefed after investing time/money into their event 

Okay... Let me clarify - if you're just blowing up an event vehicle to blow up an event vehicle, with no one around then that's RVD. If there's someone inside it or whathaveyou, then you can blow it up no problem, provided that you are engaged, etc. Of course you can't blow up an APD escort truck or use explosives in the gang base skirmish, unless you want a ban.

Are you saying that you'd want it so that you can't even blow up vehicles like the pharma truck, gold truck, etc?

[Grizzly 383]

@ Peach Collector If that's the case why don't we make rules that APD and any other gangs are not aloud to interfere with the gold truck from fed after bomb is blown? Quit looking to make unnecessary rules and get better.

[Peach Collector 63]

2 hours ago, destruct said:

 

 

Okay... Let me clarify - if you're just blowing up an event vehicle to blow up an event vehicle, with no one around then that's RVD.

If there's someone inside it or whathaveyou, then you can blow it up no problem, provided that you are engaged, etc. You can't blow up an APD escort truck, unless you want a ban.

Are you saying that you'd want it so that you can't even blow up vehicles like the pharma truck, gold truck, etc?

Yes, because the nature of events require you to be in/around the vehicle to transport loot and have a predictable, fixed location/path. It is realistically near impossible to prevent if someone has the desire to blow it up.

Such as Sov camping 200% with an explosive charge planted at the dropoff point sitting in the water. Or Mako standing on top of Telos dome lobbing RPGs inside the main dome after timer blows. What is the expectation- that every time you do pharma you bring an SDAR and wetsuit, clear a 600m radius of water plus all the land around the dropoffs before driving up while fighting cops and other roaches after having already spent 15 minutes driving/fighting? Or to control fed + every pixel of angles in a 1km radius around fed and prevent anyone from interacting with the dome door? It's simply not healthy gameplay.

[batGooseCan 577]

3 hours ago, destruct said:

 

 

Okay... Let me clarify - if you're just blowing up an event vehicle to blow up an event vehicle, with no one around then that's RVD. If there's someone inside it or whathaveyou, then you can blow it up no problem, provided that you are engaged, etc. Of course you can't blow up an APD escort truck or use explosives in the gang base skirmish, unless you want a ban.

Are you saying that you'd want it so that you can't even blow up vehicles like the pharma truck, gold truck, etc?

With how expensive gold trucks are and considering there is little to no counter play on a guy that can just rpg a big ass truck bc someone is driving it while being attacked by APD, could make it a rule that you have to be at war with the gang doing a fed to blow them up. Gives a bit of a choice. Shouldn't be losing 10 mil to 9 warpoint ammunition. Probably an unpopular opinion, but I think it would make fights between people countering and doing a fed a little more interesting considering they have to actually fight to get anything or ruin the fed.

[Peach Collector 63]

Just now, batGooseCan said:

With how expensive gold trucks are and considering there is little to no counter play on a guy that can just rpg a big ass truck bc someone is driving it while being attacked by APD, could make it a rule that you have to be at war with the gang doing a fed to blow them up. Gives a bit of a choice. Shouldn't be losing 10 mil to 9 warpoint ammunition. Probably an unpopular opinion, but I think it would make fights between people countering and doing a fed a little more interesting considering they have to actually fight to get anything or ruin the fed.

god bless, somebody with a brain

27 minutes ago, GrizzlyMan1252 said:

@ Peach Collector If that's the case why don't we make rules that APD and any other gangs are not aloud to interfere with the gold truck from fed after bomb is blown? Quit looking to make unnecessary rules and get better.

Allowed*

You dont even do feds so idk why you're typing.

How about roaches get better and actually engage in combat instead of being confrontation-avoiding weirdos 

[Peach Collector 63]

13 hours ago, Femboy Destroyer said:

That kid goes after new players doing legal runs.  I go after the largest gangs on the server. WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

Don't make me defend Jpostman. Jpostman will actually shoot you with a gun and give you a chance to retaliate. He also actually steals what he's robbing.

You, Aegis, and other weirdos will destroy an event for the sole purpose of preventing someone else from getting it in the most uninteractive and avoidant way possible. Explosives have their uses, and ending an event + costing players tens of millions of dollars and hours of their time with no ability to defend/retaliate should not be one of them.

Edited January 21, 2023 by Peach Collector

[Caleb Snackbar 198]

You could always use backpacks, vans, box trucks, etc

[The Antichrist 213]

This whole post is gross.  It should be locked and forgotten.

17 hours ago, Peach Collector said:

Such as Sov camping 200% with an explosive charge planted at the dropoff point sitting in the water. Or Mako standing on top of Telos dome lobbing RPGs inside the main dome after timer blows. What is the expectation- that every time you do pharma you bring an SDAR and wetsuit, clear a 600m radius of water plus all the land around the dropoffs before driving up while fighting cops and other roaches after having already spent 15 minutes driving/fighting? Or to control fed + every pixel of angles in a 1km radius around fed and prevent anyone from interacting with the dome door? It's simply not healthy gameplay

And this is soooo misleading.  I've literally never blown up a pharma.  Just the people around it.

[batGooseCan 577]

21 hours ago, Caleb Snackbar said:

You could always use backpacks, vans, box trucks, etc

I’d rather lose all the gold

[Lucien 2953]

I could see reducing explosive damage for vehicles that have gold, pharma trucks, etc so they take multiple hits to blow up, much better than adding a rule in my opinion.

If there's gonna be third partying of events I personally would prefer it to be from someone who wants to loot the event and not just grief 

[batGooseCan 577]

7 hours ago, Lucien said:

I could see reducing explosive damage for vehicles that have gold, pharma trucks, etc so they take multiple hits to blow up, much better than adding a rule in my opinion.

If there's gonna be third partying of events I personally would prefer it to be from someone who wants to loot the event and not just grief 

yeah make people work a bit harder to blow it up and gives the people with the truck more of a chance