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Enforcer & Warden (Community Vote)

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Warden & Enforcer (Community Vote)  

49 members have voted

  1. 1. Enforcer and Warden Nerf?

    • Yes, these vehicles are overused, abused, and over obtained making fights not fun for JAPD and Caps
      37
    • No, these vehicles should stay cheap and overused, there’s no balance concerns.
      12

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Orbit Olympian

Orbit 602

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I make this post knowing that Senior Staff and Civ Council are the people gripping onto this set of vehicles so hard, but it’s completely unbalanced and was overall a decent addition until over saturation. One of the Devs can spend some time pulling the stats, but I can assure you that more Wardens & Enforcers have been pulled than normal ifrits excluding Invasion. They’re faster, they sit lower to the ground so being shot in the feet is nearly impossible, the armor is extremely hard for the JAPD to even touch, and the gunner seat swap is over abused. 

 

TLDR: They need a fucking nerf, anyone on the APD would rather right a frit then a warden or enforcer and that’s fact. 

 

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Lucien Hero

Lucien 3356

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They are OP, but they are very sexy looking, hard toss up between nerf and no nerf

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xsmitherz Hero

xsmitherz 2236

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Afaik many civ council also don't think its balanced. Imo the armor should just be an appearance package, not an additional buff.

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Skeeter McGraw Criminal

Skeeter McGraw 60

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25 minutes ago, xsmitherz said:

Afaik many civ council also don't think its balanced. Imo the armor should just be an appearance package, not an additional buff.

+1 for this.

 

 

Absolutely brain dead idea to add such a change that’s affects majority of the population. Totally knew it wasn’t gonna get abused…..NOT

OLSN Olympian

OLSN 418

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46 minutes ago, Element_ said:

Shiba Inu Waiting GIF by KeepUpWithJazAndYumi

Day 1000 waiting for the APD Enforcer that was supposed to replace the smoke quilin for federal events

think you have other things to wait for

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Milo Hero

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Tbh APD concerns aside, I don't really enjoy fighting them on civ either. Pretty much a faster Ifrit that's more funky to rip due to it not having glass. I think best approach is making them rarer to obtain. People are always gonna pull them if they can just buy another.

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-dante- Demi-God

-dante- 5998

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5 minutes ago, Milo said:

best approach is making them rarer to obtain

preach GIF

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Millennium Hero

Millennium 6321

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2 hours ago, Lucien said:

They are OP, but they are very sexy looking, hard toss up between nerf and no nerf

@ GracieGirl  you seem to have competition. He's already calling them sexy; you may have lost.

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Element_ Hero

Element_ 738

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1 hour ago, OLSN said:

think you have other things to wait for

Free Demi it doesn’t matter that he had a perm bison key this entire time!!!

Skeeter McGraw Criminal

Skeeter McGraw 60

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45 minutes ago, Milo said:

Tbh APD concerns aside, I don't really enjoy fighting them on civ either. Pretty much a faster Ifrit that's more funky to rip due to it not having glass. I think best approach is making them rarer to obtain. People are always gonna pull them if they can just buy another.

Lmk right before they get rare and I’ll dump a shit ton of money in them to flip. Kinda like all the uniqueness on the map amiright 

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Tame Immigrant

Tame 4

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They are a pain to deal with, and I do see them so much more nowadays. But I enjoy the challenge. Guns Bullet GIF

Spoods Criminal

Spoods 180

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I haven't had much problems with them tbh.. on civ, with 7.62 they're easy to rip. Arguably easier to rip than a frit. 

Now for APD and the juniors I could see it being a problem. 6.5 doesn't pen it very well unless shot in the perfect spot. 

 

If I had a say, I'd make them either harder to obtain, or make them slower (since they should be heavier with armor anyways). Slower means easier to keep up with and easier to rip.

billdroid Citizen

billdroid 1071

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These should have been only obtainable through airdrops, which, iirc was initial idea when it was brought up. At this point people have too many of them and if we were to revert them to airdrop only, we would have to clear peoples garages and pay out the difference imo.

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xsmitherz Hero

xsmitherz 2236

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Last 30 Days for Civs: 

Hatchback Sport	29808
Ifrit	18614
Prowler (Viper)	8669
Orca	5592
Box Van	4076
MH-9 Hummingbird	3978
Enforcer (Smoke)	3832
Enforcer	3674
SUV	3405
Ifrit (Smoke)	2696
Qilin (Light)	2321
Warden	2253
Offroad	2158
Tempest Device	1795
HEMTT (Device)	1670
Van (Vehicle Transport)	1630
Prowler (Light)	1578
Caesar BTT	1342
Prowler (Black)	1049
Ghost Hawk (Pylons)	961
M-900 Civilian	956
Offroad Covered	795
Hatchback	707
Quadbike	634
Ifrit (360 Smoke)	612
HEMTT Transport	578
Kart	490
HEMTT Box	451
Zamak Covered	408
Hellcat	392
Fuel Van	346
Transport Van	304
Hunter	295
Huron	280
Taru	262
CH-49 Mohawk	258
Tempest Covered	254
Motorboat	244
MB 4WD	213
Caesar Racing	212
Taru Covered	166
RHIB Transport	142
HEMTT Fuel	137
HEMTT Covered	122
Hellcat (Dynamic)	117
Tractor	115
Prowler Armed (Tropic)	94
Strider	84
Orca (Smoke)	82
Zamak Fuel	80
MB 4WD LMG	80
Kart (Red)	75
Offroad HMG (FIA)	68
Offroad (HMG+)	66
Y-32 Xi’an (Infantry)	64
Scooter	57
Hunter (Smoke)	56
To-201 Shikra	56
Strider (360 Smoke)	56
MB 4WD AT	55
SDV Sub	55
Taru Fuel	55
Qilin (Minigun+, Smoke)	54
V-44 X Blackfish (Infantry)	49
Prowler Armed (Tropic NATO)	45
Prowler (M2)	38
Zamak Transport	38
Tempest Fuel	37
F/A-181 Black Wasp	37
Offroad (FIA)	36
Prowler (Smoke HMG)	35
A-143 Buzzard CAS	34
Offroad AT (AAF)	31
Tempest Transport	30
A-149 Gryphon	23
Speedboat Minigun	22
Van Transport	21
Tempest Ammo (Green Hex)	20
Huron (Armed)	20
Rescue Boat	18
V-44 X Blackfish (Vehicle)	16
Lifeboat	14
Qilin (Minigun+)	11
Rubber Boat	8
Ghost Hawk (Camo)	7
A-164 Wipeout	6
Kart (Fuel)	6
To-199 Neophron	4
Taru Bench	4
Kart (Blue)	4
V-44 X Blackfish 	3
Ghost Hawk (CTR G Tropic)	3
Zamak Ammo	2
Kart (Vrana)	2
notjaydenn Citizen

notjaydenn 23

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26 minutes ago, xsmitherz said:

Last 30 Days for Civs: 

Hatchback Sport	29808
Ifrit	18614
Prowler (Viper)	8669
Orca	5592
Box Van	4076
MH-9 Hummingbird	3978
Enforcer (Smoke)	3832
Enforcer	3674
SUV	3405
Ifrit (Smoke)	2696
Qilin (Light)	2321
Warden	2253
Offroad	2158
Tempest Device	1795
HEMTT (Device)	1670
Van (Vehicle Transport)	1630
Prowler (Light)	1578
Caesar BTT	1342
Prowler (Black)	1049
Ghost Hawk (Pylons)	961
M-900 Civilian	956
Offroad Covered	795
Hatchback	707
Quadbike	634
Ifrit (360 Smoke)	612
HEMTT Transport	578
Kart	490
HEMTT Box	451
Zamak Covered	408
Hellcat	392
Fuel Van	346
Transport Van	304
Hunter	295
Huron	280
Taru	262
CH-49 Mohawk	258
Tempest Covered	254
Motorboat	244
MB 4WD	213
Caesar Racing	212
Taru Covered	166
RHIB Transport	142
HEMTT Fuel	137
HEMTT Covered	122
Hellcat (Dynamic)	117
Tractor	115
Prowler Armed (Tropic)	94
Strider	84
Orca (Smoke)	82
Zamak Fuel	80
MB 4WD LMG	80
Kart (Red)	75
Offroad HMG (FIA)	68
Offroad (HMG+)	66
Y-32 Xi’an (Infantry)	64
Scooter	57
Hunter (Smoke)	56
To-201 Shikra	56
Strider (360 Smoke)	56
MB 4WD AT	55
SDV Sub	55
Taru Fuel	55
Qilin (Minigun+, Smoke)	54
V-44 X Blackfish (Infantry)	49
Prowler Armed (Tropic NATO)	45
Prowler (M2)	38
Zamak Transport	38
Tempest Fuel	37
F/A-181 Black Wasp	37
Offroad (FIA)	36
Prowler (Smoke HMG)	35
A-143 Buzzard CAS	34
Offroad AT (AAF)	31
Tempest Transport	30
A-149 Gryphon	23
Speedboat Minigun	22
Van Transport	21
Tempest Ammo (Green Hex)	20
Huron (Armed)	20
Rescue Boat	18
V-44 X Blackfish (Vehicle)	16
Lifeboat	14
Qilin (Minigun+)	11
Rubber Boat	8
Ghost Hawk (Camo)	7
A-164 Wipeout	6
Kart (Fuel)	6
To-199 Neophron	4
Taru Bench	4
Kart (Blue)	4
V-44 X Blackfish 	3
Ghost Hawk (CTR G Tropic)	3
Zamak Ammo	2
Kart (Vrana)	2

Ya aint no way Ifrits are used more then warden in normal S1 activities 

silton Hero

silton 5055

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10 minutes ago, notjaydenn said:

Ya aint no way Ifrits are used more then warden in normal S1 activities 

People who fight caps use them consistently 

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