"Hands up or die" followed by "keep them up or I'll shoot you""

[Thorin Oakenshield 39]

Now, I've got my opinions, but I'm curious to see what you all think of this.

Let's say someone complies with putting their hands up, and the initiator says for that individual to keep them up, or they will die. After all, who wants to restrain be required to act when you can just wait a minute and get what the initiator really wants- a kill. 

I've done this before too. I'd just like the communities' opinion on how they feel about this, and whether or not this sort of shortcuts the rules of complying and restraints. 

TLDR: Title. Do you feel like this is fair, unfair / a shortcut to the rules. 

Also, if the guy keeps his hands up for more than five minutes, would you say that it would be RDM for the initiator to shoot post-5 min? What if they refresh their threat to keep your hands up? Should that be allowed?

[TheLowborn 34]

Only nakeds put their hands up.  WTF?

[Thorin Oakenshield 39]

1 hour ago, TheLowborn said:

Only nakeds put their hands up.  WTF?

And I've seen this happen plenty to them. Your point?

[N7Zero 1455]

who presses "Tab" these  days?

[Ryan Beck 102]

4 hours ago, N7Zero said:

who presses "Tab" these  days?

Only ever press tab because i think i'm playing Dayz

[Piner 115]

17 minutes ago, Ryan Beck said:

Only ever press tab because i think i'm playing Dayz

cut

[TheLowborn 34]

16 hours ago, Shanky said:

And I've seen this happen plenty to them. Your point?

People that kill nakeds are a problem that need to be dealt with in another way.  What way, I don't know.  But farming nakeds, except if you are in Kavala and know what you signed up for, is one of the worst things on Olympus.

[your name 51]

Don’t be naked outside of kav then. If you get robbed and your naked your fault. End of story

[J.Glenn 52]

20 hours ago, Shanky said:

Now, I've got my opinions, but I'm curious to see what you all think of this.

Let's say someone complies with putting their hands up, and the initiator says for that individual to keep them up, or they will die. After all, who wants to restrain be required to act when you can just wait a minute and get what the initiator really wants- a kill. 

I've done this before too. I'd just like the communities' opinion on how they feel about this, and whether or not this sort of shortcuts the rules of complying and restraints. 

TLDR: Title. Do you feel like this is fair, unfair / a shortcut to the rules. 

Also, if the guy keeps his hands up for more than five minutes, would you say that it would be RDM for the initiator to shoot post-5 min? What if they refresh their threat to keep your hands up? Should that be allowed?

My favorite is to say "hands up or die"
*they put their hands up*

Then I say: "START SAYING YOUR ABC's BACKWARDS IN THE NEXT FIVE SECONDS, OR I'll TURN YOUR BRAIN INTO SWISS CHEESE"

most of the time, they're like "wait what the fuck?" they don't start saying them...they try to run

Boom, free kill.

[Rossco 1160]

You don't even need to say this..... After you say hands up or die, if they put their hands down and you see them with them down anytime in the next 5 minutes, you are allowed to gun them down like a field full of penguins

[Thorin Oakenshield 39]

19 hours ago, Rossco said:

You don't even need to say this..... After you say hands up or die, if they put their hands down and you see them with them down anytime in the next 5 minutes, you are allowed to gun them down like a field full of penguins

So you would say the engagement is treated like a text message then; so you would be able to refresh the threat indefinitely.

Speaking of which, what are the rules surrounding someone saying "Hands up or die" and another group saying "Put your hands down or die"?

20 hours ago, J.Glenn said:

My favorite is to say "hands up or die"
*they put their hands up*

Then I say: "START SAYING YOUR ABC's BACKWARDS IN THE NEXT FIVE SECONDS, OR I'll TURN YOUR BRAIN INTO SWISS CHEESE"

most of the time, they're like "wait what the fuck?" they don't start saying them...they try to run

Boom, free kill.

Reminds me of the time someone said "let's play Simon says" and then said "put your hands down" as if it was time to start playing and then getting blasted immediately lol

[Rossco 1160]

13 minutes ago, Shanky said:

So you would say the engagement is treated like a text message then; so you would be able to refresh the threat indefinitely.

Speaking of which, what are the rules surrounding someone saying "Hands up or die" and another group saying "Put your hands down or die"?

Not sure what you're trying to say?

[Thorin Oakenshield 39]

1 hour ago, Rossco said:

Not sure what you're trying to say?

Like if group A says hands up or die but group B comes and gives a contradicting "put your hands down or die" command, the player is stuck. If the hands stay up, dead. If they come down, dead. 

[Rossco 1160]

You can't order someone to put their hands down and if they don't kill them lol

[Thorin Oakenshield 39]

6 minutes ago, Rossco said:

You can't order someone to put their hands down and if they don't kill them lol

In this situation you mean?  Because I've seen people give orders to do something "or die". Like follow me, or get in the car. Doesn't happen often but what's the validity of this?
 

[Joce 256]

16 hours ago, Shanky said:

Like if group A says hands up or die but group B comes and gives a contradicting "put your hands down or die" command, the player is stuck. If the hands stay up, dead. If they come down, dead. 

You can almost understand what its like to be a Medic when group A says revive or die and group B says dont revive or die....

[Thorin Oakenshield 39]

3 hours ago, Joce said:

You can almost understand what its like to be a Medic when group A says revive or die and group B says dont revive or die....

I've been in that situation before, haha.

[Joce 256]

On 10/22/2019 at 3:22 PM, Shanky said:

I've been in that situation before, haha.

And then both groups submit on you for "not valuing your life"  good times

[Puckles 25]

How it goes is if someone has a gun they'll fight back and if not then they have nothing to lose.

Edited October 28, 2019 by Puckles
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