Fedot 1158 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've been playing video games for a few years now and harassment is just something that comes along with it. I have been told very vulgar things before and you just have to learn to deal with it. Yeah it might sound harsh but it's the truth. The way I would suggest doing it is by ignoring them, killing them, or for extreme circumstances taking a screenshot and/or recording and then submitting it. The sort of guys that do this are just wanting a reaction out of you. Any treatment outside of game such as in teamspeak like Shelby was speaking about I am not afraid to be vocal about my discomfort. Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself. Be a strong independent black woman. Don't take shit from anyone. If something makes you feel uncomfortable then say it. How else will they know. Basically what I'm trying to say that you need to learn to have a thick skin and not let shit people say get to you and stand up for yourself. Don't depend on others to solve your own problems. I know this might sound harsh but that is how it is. And the fact that some people commenting on this post are not taking it as seriously as they should is sad. It is honestly quite disrespectful to make such remarks. It gives me the impression that the opinions and feelings of Lady, Queen, and Shelby obviously do not matter that much since y'all are so quick to make jokes about it. For her to have to post this onto the forums must mean that this really does bother her, and people are trying to make jokes about it. Shelby even mentions that whenever she steps up and does say that was is going on is unacceptable that she gets laughed at and that is exactly what some people are doing on this post. HEY GURRRL The reason i mostly see with Shelby (No Offence/ Not Starting a war just what i've seen) is she will Perm Deny any Medic Services Depending on who you role with or the way RP The Reason why some people may yell at Lady although she is getting much better at this she has the Tendencies to Immediately break RP and or get revenge Kills. Just what i've seen don't hate me Madiwadi is OP we must nerf her Quote Link to comment
Admin Bubbaloo - Reusable P Cup 3028 Posted April 16, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 HEY GURRRL The reason i mostly see with Shelby (No Offence/ Not Starting a war just what i've seen) is she will Perm Deny any Medic Services Depending on who you role with or the way RP The Reason why some people may yell at Lady although she is getting much better at this she has the Tendencies to Immediately break RP and or get revenge Kills. Just what i've seen don't hate me Madiwadi is OP we must nerf her We won't hate, all points are valid. Quote Link to comment
Pringle Mccringleberry 114 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 If im playing cop and I see someone being disrespectful to a female saying there going to rape her etc... and she shoots the person ill pardon her. I dont know if i can do that but in my opinion its the right thing to do 3 Quote Link to comment
Fedot 1158 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 We won't hate, all points are valid. Thanks I honestly don't think its just because they are Female it also may be because there play style 2 Quote Link to comment
Thomas 671 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 so we all have to be nice when we shoot each other now...hands up or die please...you know how many times Ive been raped in jail...or out of jail...in front of cops...come on you guys have got to be freaking kidding me...if you really think someone is harassing you submit the ticket don't give anybody special treatment...that's what this server has always been about...if someone comes up to me and says I fucked your mother in the ass what you gonna do and I shoot them in front of a cop I would be sent straight to jail for rdm and I expect the same from the female players but obviously not because they are getting special treatment now for no reason. 3 Quote Link to comment
SPBojo 6863 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 so we all have to be nice when we shoot each other now...hands up or die please...you know how many times Ive been raped in jail...or out of jail...in front of cops...come on you guys have got to be freaking kidding me...if you really think someone is harassing you submit the ticket don't give anybody special treatment...that's what this server has always been about...if someone comes up to me and says I fucked your mother in the ass what you gonna do and I shoot them in front of a cop I would be sent straight to jail for rdm and I expect the same from the female players but obviously not because they are getting special treatment now for no reason. No reason? Ever heard of boobs? Jkjk, but im with you on this. Quote Link to comment
Fedot 1158 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 No reason? Ever heard of boobs? Jkjk, but im with you on this. MY WEAKNESS BUUBS Quote Link to comment
Welch 61 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 The sad thing here is the people saying "get over it" or something like that. Rape threats and sexually harassing someone over the internet is illegal, male or female, and there should be something close to a no-tolerance policy regarding it. And the guys saying how they get treated just as bad because boys will be boys! Oh well! That's some bullshit. I used to play Xbox with one of my girl-friends and the amount of nasty scenarios and rape/death threats they receive is just disgusting. Obviously it shouldn't be tolerated for guys either, but it's definitely not as common for guys. Who wants to get on a game and hear a grown man tell them he's gonna shove nails up their cooch and that her house better be locked because he's gonna find her and rape her. 1 Quote Link to comment
Fat Clemenza 1722 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm a little divided on this matter. I think the prevalence of infantile pillocks in online gaming is just a large part of the package deal that is online gaming. That doesn't make the offenders any less guilty of being an apocalyptic dingleberry, but if we lower our expectations and learn to expect that behavior more often, then it becomes easier to ignore or deal with. The problem with our generation today is that the majority of people under the age of thirty-five have very thin skin. I mean, for God's sake, somebody's being a dick to you, but they're hundreds of miles away and behind the safety of a computer screen. For me at least, I don't lose sleep at night when a guy like honeybooboo incessantly gives me shit because I know that he's thousands of miles away from me and is only being a dick because his computer screen can't get up and blast him. I am concerned that some people are getting so riled up about being mistreated on a video game. None of these people should mean anything to you. This isn't just happening in gaming. It's happening everywhere too. "It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what" (Stephen Fry). Take a step back and realize you're playing a video game. Expect the trolls and it'll be a million times easier to deal with them. If any of you girls are wanting a career in law enforcement, then I'd say look for a career elsewhere. The "harassment" you're experiencing here could not hold a candle to the kind of harassment you'll receive working a twelve-hour-shift as a female Sheriff's deputy in the jail. At the end of the day, this whole thing is much ado about nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment
Thomas 671 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 all im saying is if someone is harassing you send in the ticket...how the hell you gonna make a rule for harassment? If they say anything mean 3 times in a row its harassment? One time? How you define harassment and I define harassment are probably two completely different ways...who is right? I could of submitted so many tickets for harassment under your guys definition of harassment. It is what it is so go ahead and start giving special treatment to whoever you feel like it. Im not saying harassment is ok either at all so don't get it twisted. 1 Quote Link to comment
hyperion 29 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Another time I was hanging out in Kavala, a group of 5 boys come up to be and decide it'd be just hiiilarious to follow me around for over 10 minutes, spamming their mics with "girl, girl, girl" WHILE two police officers stood by watching it happen, and refusing to assist me at all (not even giving them a verbal warning, just a casual "leave the poor girl alone"). You know what ended up happening? I ended up shooting three of them (the others ran off), after asking them several times to please leave me alone and letting them know I'd rather not hurt them. This ended up with my weapon seized later when I turned myself into the police, as well as having my gun license removed. Doesn't seem to fair, eh? Didnt I come and pardon you on that one, I remeber I met you at the airfield to talk about that one. Quote Link to comment
Admin Bubbaloo - Reusable P Cup 3028 Posted April 16, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 all im saying is if someone is harassing you send in the ticket...how the hell you gonna make a rule for harassment? If they say anything mean 3 times in a row its harassment? One time? How you define harassment and I define harassment are probably two completely different ways...who is right? I could of submitted so many tickets for harassment under your guys definition of harassment. It is what it is so go ahead and start giving special treatment to whoever you feel like it. Im not saying harassment is ok either at all so don't get it twisted. Makes sense. I have heard many a people talk smack to each other and being serious about it while doing RP. Men to men. I mean... I do not favor sexual harassment or racist things of that sort but I think we should thread lightly on this subject as putting up an extremely strict rule that would be up to interpretation by the admins and/or APD's will more than likely drive many people away, even the ones not involved in the particular toxic actions themselves. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment
Hades 1423 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 The sad thing here is the people saying "get over it" or something like that. Rape threats and sexually harassing someone over the internet is illegal, male or female, and there should be something close to a no-tolerance policy regarding it. And the guys saying how they get treated just as bad because boys will be boys! Oh well! That's some bullshit. I used to play Xbox with one of my girl-friends and the amount of nasty scenarios and rape/death threats they receive is just disgusting. Obviously it shouldn't be tolerated for guys either, but it's definitely not as common for guys. Who wants to get on a game and hear a grown man tell them he's gonna shove nails up their cooch and that her house better be locked because he's gonna find her and rape her. Things like this are not allowed. IDC if its written or not. The last re-write of the rules gave the staff alittle more leeway on the rules so if players are just being completely toxic and ruining the community we can get ride of them. Makes sense. I have heard many a people talk smack to each other and being serious about it while doing RP. Men to men. I mean... I do not favor sexual harassment or racist things of that sort but I think we should thread lightly on this subject as putting up an extremely strict rule that would be up to interpretation by the admins and/or APD's will more than likely drive many people away, even the ones not involved in the particular toxic actions themselves. Just my 2 cents. RP and vulgarness are 2 different things. The thing people have to understand is where the line is.If you wouldn't say it to someone right in front of you then you probably shouldn't say it here either. Now before anyone says well this is an RP server I wasnt to state this is in regards to sexual, racist, terrorist, ect type talk. At the end of the day it will be up to the staff if they feel someone has crossed the line but we have made it pretty clear where the line is. When I go through and work on a rule regarding this I'll try to include examples to make it easier to understand. Keep in mind however we are not going to ban someone just because they may call you a bitch or a fag unless its a constant thing. It is a game and with that it going to come some mouthy 12 yr olds. If you truly feel it is wrong then def let the staff know if in-game or make them tickets. Even if it gets denied it doesn't mean we won't keep an eye on that player to see if they are doing it to others as well. 1 Quote Link to comment
ladyicarus 2 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 For those of you who are suggesting I'm asking for special treatment, you're sadly mistaken. Rape threats whether it's be towards men or women are completely inappropriate and should not be tolerated at all. I'm asking for new rules to be implemented to protect both sexes from sexual harassment, not just the women. Your comments suggesting I'm being favored because I have tits are completely inappropriate and you should be ashamed of yourselves for carrying on about in such a manner. Like I said previously, I am not trying to get every perpetrator banned, but trying to implement new rules that protect ALL citizens from these types of sexual and crude offenses. The only reason I'm throwing my gender around is because I have to face this type of harassment daily, and after two weeks of playing on a day-to-day basis, I'm sick of it. You're all telling me to shrug it off, and move on. Boys will be boys and whatnot, but imagine if you were in my situation. What would you do? Try to be a little empathetic ffs. And for those of you suggesting I am being harassed because of my play style, no, I'm afraid not. The instances I documented for you lovely folks were ones in which I was sought out just because I'm female. The misogyny is real. Quote Link to comment
Moose 316 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Tbh this was never an issue until you made it an issue. Get off your sheltered pedestal. The men who play this game are foul to each other and personally I love it. Quote Link to comment
Thomas 671 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 can I say allah ackbar before I blow up my suicide vest? or is that terrorism? so I can kill you but not call you a fag before doing so? I think people are making the admins jobs a lot harder than it has to be. Lets play the game and have fun...if you are not having fun why are you playing? 1 Quote Link to comment
Jorbis 327 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 - Sexual harassment is an issue on Olympus. - Offenders need to stop. - Victims are required to present proof to staff members in order for the offenders to be dealt with. (Unless the staff members witness the situation first hand.) It's really unfortunate that people still treat others like this online and face to face. I haven't personally dealt with sexual harassment, but from what I've read in this thread and heard in game it's a terrible experience. can I say allah ackbar before I blow up my suicide vest? or is that terrorism? so I can kill you but not call you a fag before doing so? I think people are making the admins jobs a lot harder than it has to be. Lets play the game and have fun...if you are not having fun why are you playing? From what I've read here, the players being sexually harassed really enjoy this community other than the harassment they've been receiving. It's not the occasional comments of people being called "faggots" or "whores." It's about being constantly harassed every single day when you're simply trying to have fun in a video game. Tbh this was never an issue until you made it an issue. Get off your sheltered pedestal. The men who play this game are foul to each other and personally I love it. Just because you're okay with the current situation doesn't mean that others are. Quote Link to comment
Moose 316 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Maybe I should host some desensitizy training Quote Link to comment
Shelby 133 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 HEY GURRRL The reason i mostly see with Shelby (No Offence/ Not Starting a war just what i've seen) is she will Perm Deny any Medic Services Depending on who you role with or the way RP The Reason why some people may yell at Lady although she is getting much better at this she has the Tendencies to Immediately break RP and or get revenge Kills. Just what i've seen don't hate me Madiwadi is OP we must nerf her I've never perm denied anyone from service......... Quote Link to comment
Peter Long 4345 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 This thread has gone on long enough. I think the major points are that if you feel harrassed, submit it and the player will be punished. Other than that, take some advice from a good friend of mine, Mr. Fat Clemenza, "When the game is stressing you out, shut it off, read a book, or take a walk. Remember that this is a videogame and not real life." Is harassment ok? No. Can you do something about it? Yes. Submit a ticket. Please lock this thread. 4 Quote Link to comment
Dustin87 864 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I dont wanna be rude but this thread went from Sexaul Harrasment isn't ok (which isnt and it was productive) to You cant call me any names because im a girl. I personally joke with my male friends all the time about making them "suck my cock" or other things like that. While i wouldnt condone people constantly harrasing you I.E following you around trying to rape you. But in gunfights i say "oh were gonna rape them". Im not gonna change the way i talk just becuase you are a women. If you guys push to be treated as eqauls in society then im going to treat you as such, if that means i say "suck my cock" to you then so be it. But, once again, going to extremes with it obviously isnt ok. Just like the terrorism stuff, if i yell "alluah akbar" before i detanate my suicide vest that is fine, but going to the extremes like MC isnt. Like i said earlier, if anyone is doing this constantly to you, report it. P.S. I jokingly threaten to rape people all the time, mostly thomas.... Quote Link to comment
Sassykat143 5 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I feel really bad that some of you girls are dealing with harassment. I guess I have been fortunate because so far besides the OMG you are a girl comment I haven't dealt with any issues of being hugely disrespected. Yeah you get the rude comment here and there, but I see guys deal with the same issues. I run with a great group of guys and even in the hostage situations where I'm the one guarding the hostage, the guys who are captive have been always super funny with me and we have a blast. I do have a bunch of guys follow me around Kavala if I'm in troll city, but I usually turn it around, and get them to do my bidding...like get me out of handcuffs Anyways I enjoy knowing there are other girls who play and I love running into LadyIcarus, Queen, and even had a great run in with Shelby escorting her out of trouble hehe. I hope you girls don't get discourage, but I guess the best thing to do is to submit tickets. No one deserves to be called offensive things, so the boys doing it, come on it's a game, be nice 4 Quote Link to comment
Shelby 133 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I feel really bad that some of you girls are dealing with harassment. I guess I have been fortunate because so far besides the OMG you are a girl comment I haven't dealt with any issues of being hugely disrespected. Yeah you get the rude comment here and there, but I see guys deal with the same issues. I run with a great group of guys and even in the hostage situations where I'm the one guarding the hostage, the guys who are captive have been always super funny with me and we have a blast. I do have a bunch of guys follow me around Kavala if I'm in troll city, but I usually turn it around, and get them to do my bidding...like get me out of handcuffs Anyways I enjoy knowing there are other girls who play and I love running into LadyIcarus, Queen, and even had a great run in with Shelby escorting her out of trouble hehe. I hope you girls don't get discourage, but I guess the best thing to do is to submit tickets. No one deserves to be called offensive things, so the boys doing it, come on it's a game, be nice Most people are pretty nice to me. It's just that one asshole every day or so who has to ruin it for everyone. I don't get 'harassed' too much - I really don't care too much if someone calls me a bitch or something (If i'm medic though, denied service until restart for bein' hella rude.) Usually people 'do my bidding' like you said also, like the first week I was here I convinced a bunch of people to work together to do a prison break. There *are* some people I quietly refer to as the 'fanboy squad' because they get way too excited to see me on the server, but yeah. My biggest issue that bothers me in all types of gaming is sexual harassment/assault threats, but thats a whole different can of worms. Quote Link to comment
The Gent 68 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 We have also made it clear that some things simply are not allowed such as [...] calling ppl sluts & cunts, ect. For people making these comments, get a screenshot, submit a ticket and they will most likely be permanently gone from our servers. Errrghhh...what if it's guy to guy? I drop a c-bomb now and then (have never done it to a woman, nor would I intentionally do so) but a blanket ban on the word entirely? I live in Australia. It's what I call my best friend, whereas if there's an arsehole, I'll probably call him "mate". Where's the line with that one? Quote Link to comment
Fedot 1158 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Errrghhh...what if it's guy to guy? I drop a c-bomb now and then (have never done it to a woman, nor would I intentionally do so) but a blanket ban on the word entirely? I live in Australia. It's what I call my best friend, whereas if there's an arsehole, I'll probably call him "mate". Where's the line with that one? EDIT: I DO NOT PROMOTE SEXISM OR SEXUAL HARASSMENT I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT ITS NOT BECAUSE YOUR FEMALE WE ALL DEAL WITH THIS STUFF, I CAN GUARANTEE 99% of the PEOPLE READING THIS HAVE BEEN CALLED A NAME OR HARRASED ON THE INTERNET, THE REASON FOR THIS IS NOBODY KNOWS HOW SMALL YOUR BALLS ARE ON THE INTERNET Its Called Double standards Maybe I should host some desensitizy training I see you just yelling at people till they snap I Also take offence for the Title of this thread its not just Olympus its the Internet where people have the Biggest balls as they feel like; Where there is no IRL Reaction Only time something will effect you IRL is if you Listen to the shit people say OR 2. You forget your not on the internet and go up to a Large Male and call him a McF*gMuffin. @REPLY I'm Just gonna point out some things Please do not hate. Although you are new to the Olympus Servers people do not take kindly to people that threaten to submit a ticket Immediately after a Situation starts. An other point is you yourself used "Being a women" as an Excuse of bad Driving not more than 5 Days ago, so how are we supposed to know what you find "Harassing". Although Next time you feel as someone is either A) Threatening you or making you feel bad or Making any Insults to you or others Make a Ticket and Call 911 I'm sure Myself and other Officers can find a RP Charge to slap on, and we will be sure to make sure the Scene is secure if not we will drive him to the farthest nearest HQ WE SHOULD LOCK THREAD BECAUSE RIOTS BOUT' TO START This is as Serious as I can be I need to make Jokes in all my Posts but that aside I sorta see where this thread is coming from /THREAD Quote Link to comment
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