Guest G.O.A.T. Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 This rule change is effective immediately. Post any questions/concerns below. Chapter III - Use of Force Your First Weapon Your first weapon is always your voice. Always attempt to defuse a situation without firing a shot. If necessary, you may bring your weapon at the ready while continuing to use your voice. If the situation calls for it, you may restrain a suspect or civilian if your verbal attempts to resolve the situation have failed. Non-Lethal Force The use of taser rounds are permitted when a suspect attempts to flee on foot or in a vehicle, or presents any weapon. The use of non-lethal weapons may be used to disable fleeing vehicles by targeting the operator or their vehicle Lethal Force Lethal force is authorized only when non-lethal force has failed or is inadequate to resolve the situation. Exception - Lethal force is always authorized in Warzone. If you have loaded lethals during a situation against a single group and another group joins that situation, lethals are still authorized against all opposing forces. Failure of a non-lethal solution is defined by 2 failed attempts with a non-lethal option by the individual officer. Lethal loading waves are not counted until any officer has gone through at least 2 waves. Lethal force may also be authorized when the officers are outnumbered by a ratio of 3:1. If at any point while executing the duties of an APD member you come under fire without prior warning you are immediately allowed to return fire with extreme care for life and property of the people of Altis until the situation has been neutralized. If an officer is tased during an active engagement lethal force is authorized against the group that tased the officer regardless of wave. If a server reset occurs during an active situation and lethal force was authorized prior to restart, officers may return to the situation with lethals loaded on rebels still at and/or fleeing the situation. If an officer is taken hostage, lethal force is authorized in order to recapture the officer. Vehicle Shooting The officers may only fire back when they have a positive location of the unit(s) that have fired If the officers are starting the engagement APD must send a text to a member of the criminal unit from an officer before firing letting them know they will be fired upon by the APD if they do not surrender. Exception - All APD ground vehicles in active pursuit. Once it has been determined that the suspect is clearly evading, they are cleared to open fire upon the fleeing assailant. Chapter XIV - APD Aircraft Aircraft Patrols Recon Patrol - Recon patrols can be performed by any APD member, with the approval of a Corporal or higher. These patrols can not directly engage with criminals on the ground. Recon patrols can be done with any helicopter in the APD arsenal so long as the pilot is the only inhabitant of the helicopter at the start of the patrol. Rapid Response Patrol - These patrols are lead by a Corporal or higher. These patrols are tasked with rapidly responding to major calls and patrolling high crime areas. Minimum Crew: Pilot + One Gunner - Corporal or higher must be present Rapid Response patrols can be done with any helicopter in the APD arsenal so long as the minimum crew is present at the start of the patrol. To clarify, crew amounts can differ during Recon and Rapid Response patrols, but they must be defined at the start of the patrol. Airplane Patrols Airplane recon patrols can be performed by an APD member, with the approval of a Corporal or higher. You may perform recon over illegal areas without using lights and sirens. Fixed Wing Patrol - The Fixed Wing Aircraft can be used for both recon and rapid response. For standard patrols, the APD may employ the use of parachutes. Minimum Crew - Pilot - Corporal or higher must be present. These patrols require an additional unit to engage using code 3 in illegal areas if the patrol utilizes parachutes, or landing to engage suspects. The Ghosthawk Ghosthawk Patrol - Ghosthawk patrols are conducted by Sergeants or higher. These patrols are utilized for a heavy APD response to large gang actions or high risk rebel activity. Minimum Crew - Pilot + one Gunner - Sergeant or higher must be online. The Ghosthawk’s weapons are only to be used on vehicles that are operated by a suspect of a crime, or on vehicles in which a suspect is known to have boarded beyond a reasonable doubt. If giving chase to an aircraft piloted by, or containing, a suspect of a crime, the pilot is to be notified by text message 1 time to land the vehicle or be shot, and given 10 seconds to comply. Exception: You can fire upon an illegal ground vehicle (including stolen APD Hunters and Striders), if given 1 text message and 10 seconds to comply. If an aircraft is over water and receives a text from a Ghosthawk it must attempt to land at the nearest body of land. If an aircraft continues to fly out to sea it can be shot down over the water. If the Ghosthawk is fired upon by a titan, the Ghosthawk remains guns hot regardless of wave rule until the engagement has been . broken for more than 5 minutes. If a Ghosthawk is stolen, and its operators utilize the guns on the APD or the civilian population, the APD is authorized to use any means necessary to destroy the stolen Ghosthawk (excluding breaking Server Rules). This clause also applies to any armed aerial vehicle. If hostile action is taken against the Ghosthawk, it may return fire with lethal force without sending a warning text first. This includes when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat (Example: civilian with a titan that has engaged the Ghosthawk via text). The Sergeant or higher must be the one to give the directive to use the guns. Exception: If multiple Ghosthawks have been shot down in the same situation any Sergeant and above may decide to use the Ghosthawk(s) guns hot provided they notify a member of the opposing force to leave or surrender prior. Once a single Ghosthawk meets guns hot requirements, all Ghosthawks in the area of engagement may go guns hot without prior warning. For federal events only, once the prerequisite is met, the ghosthawk may respond to the federal event with GUNS HOT against all hostile robbery/jailbreak participants. The prerequisite is defined as: The bomb blowing at a federal event. (Example: If the bomb blows on wave 5, wave 5 MUST FINISH before the Ghosthawk can come out on Wave 6) Multiple Ghosthawks lost, with approval of Sergeant or higher. Once rebels leave the federal event (Inner Anti-Air circle), the Ghosthawk ceases fire and resets to normal Ghosthawk rules. If a server reset occurs during an active situation and the Ghosthawk was guns hot prior to restart, the Ghosthawk may return to the situation (after restart) GUNS HOT at the rebels still at and/or fleeing the active situation. Hummingbird The Hummingbird’s weapons are only to be used on vehicles that are operated by a suspect of a crime, or on vehicles in which a suspect is known to have boarded beyond a reasonable doubt. If giving chase to a vehicle piloted/driven by a suspect of a crime, or a vehicle which is carrying a suspect of a crime, the pilot/driver is to be notified by text message up to 1 times to land/park the vehicle, or be shot. While an APD member using a Hummingbird comes under fire by players within another Helicopter or ground unit, the Hummingbird gunners may immediately return fire without a text first. The Corporal or higher must be the one to give the directive to use the guns. If an APD hummingbird enters an area of engagement and/or is in the area where an active gunfight between APD and civs is taking place, the hummingbird may fire upon engaged ground units without sending a text (including ground vehicles). M-900 Patrol Officers and higher are permitted to utilize the M900 exclusively for transportation to federal events/terror. Any use other than transportation to a federal event/terror will need the authorization of an online Corporal or higher. Quote Link to comment
Savage 120 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 this just makes the ghost hawk more op now +1 Quote Link to comment
Tyredian 30 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Yep always has been 1 Quote Link to comment
Fear 45 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Another rule caused by bw. Aka the titan ghost hawk engagement. Quote Link to comment
HyperGoat 826 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, G.O.A.T. said: Exception - Lethal force is always authorized in Warzone. If hostile action is taken against the Ghosthawk, it may return fire with lethal force without sending a warning text first. This includes when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat (Example: civilian with a titan that has engaged the Ghosthawk via text). 1. This means no waves just auto-lethals? 2. Hostile Action does that inclued like hovering over the hawk for rotor taps by example Quote Link to comment
BENJI 1021 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 43 minutes ago, G.O.A.T. said: This includes when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat (Example: civilian with a titan that has engaged the Ghosthawk via text). So if there's a guy in the gunner seat of a 50. Cal looking at the Ghosthawk, are your able to pipe em up even if he hasn't fired a single shot? Quote Link to comment
PoptartRex 3294 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 46 minutes ago, Benjamin Remer said: So if there's a guy in the gunner seat of a 50. Cal looking at the Ghosthawk, are your able to pipe em up even if he hasn't fired a single shot? You can pipe them up if it is obvious in terms of what it looks like/what has been said/texted. I have a titan. I look at a hawk and send "Land or be titaned" to the pilot. Ghosthawk can go guns hot on me. Same thing here. Gunner of 50 sends engagement, things turn litty. 1 hour ago, HyperGoat said: 1. This means no waves just auto-lethals? 2. Hostile Action does that inclued like hovering over the hawk for rotor taps by example 1. Yes lethals first wave 2. Hostile action is the same as it was before. I would say it isn't hostile till there is collision though in that example. Quote Link to comment
Admin -dante- 5170 Posted October 2, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 49 minutes ago, Benjamin Remer said: So if there's a guy in the gunner seat of a 50. Cal looking at the Ghosthawk, are your able to pipe em up even if he hasn't fired a single shot? If he or his gang has engaged. A random person pointing any weapon without engagement is not enough. Quote Link to comment
Owner Ryan 6828 Posted October 2, 2017 Owner Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, G.O.A.T. said: If hostile action is taken against the Ghosthawk, it may return fire with lethal force without sending a warning text first. This includes when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat (Example: civilian with a titan that has engaged the Ghosthawk via text). We made it boys. GG 1 Quote Link to comment
mur 556 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 To many updates, corrupt APD! Quote Link to comment
ItsGG 1477 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 not sure if the warzone lethals are necessary but ok Quote Link to comment
Pledge 2292 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 47 minutes ago, Aunt Jemima said: not sure if the warzone lethals are necessary but ok With no NLR now, I think it is. Quote Link to comment
Outcast 601 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Aunt Jemima said: not sure if the warzone lethals are necessary but ok No NLR for rebels & No lethal waves to warzone for APD is a good balance to me. Quote Link to comment
sleazy turd racoon 383 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 This includes when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat (Example: civilian with a titan that has engaged the Ghosthawk via text). Rip Quote Link to comment
RogueMK 648 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I like this update Quote Link to comment
ItsGG 1477 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Pledge said: With no NLR now, I think it is. 1 hour ago, OutCast said: No NLR for rebels & No lethal waves to warzone for APD is a good balance to me. just saw rule update. War zone finna be littt Quote Link to comment
Dangus 629 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 So if a ghosthawk raids a rebel and a guy walks out holding a titan and is clearly looking at the hawk, can it go guns hot? Cause they don't have to send a text since the hawk is in the red zone. So how do you know if it is showing intent to shoot the hawk if it doesn't have to send a text? Does simply aiming a titan or .50 at it in a red zone count as clear threat to the hawk? Quote Link to comment
PoptartRex 3294 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, DINGUSDEAN said: So if a ghosthawk raids a rebel and a guy walks out holding a titan and is clearly looking at the hawk, can it go guns hot? Cause they don't have to send a text since the hawk is in the red zone. So how do you know if it is showing intent to shoot the hawk if it doesn't have to send a text? Does simply aiming a titan or .50 at it in a red zone count as clear threat to the hawk? In this example it clearly is showing a threat to the hawk by aiming a titan or positioning a 50 in its direction, then yes. Quote Link to comment
Dangus 629 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 51 minutes ago, TheCmdrRex said: In this example it clearly is showing a threat to the hawk by aiming a titan or positioning a 50 in its direction, then yes. Ok, I was just making sure. Thanks for clarification. Quote Link to comment
MyersB 59 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 hours ago, DINGUSDEAN said: So if a ghosthawk raids a rebel and a guy walks out holding a titan and is clearly looking at the hawk, can it go guns hot? Cause they don't have to send a text since the hawk is in the red zone. So how do you know if it is showing intent to shoot the hawk if it doesn't have to send a text? Does simply aiming a titan or .50 at it in a red zone count as clear threat to the hawk? I mean, this is IRL standard NATO ROE for CAS aircraft, especially if ground can confirm a visual, so you are getting that realism RP. Quote Link to comment
BENJI 1021 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 18 hours ago, Dante Fleury said: If he or his gang has engaged. A random person pointing any weapon without engagement is not enough. Then that's kinda misleading because it says "when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat" Quote Link to comment
Guest G.O.A.T. Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Benjamin Remer said: Then that's kinda misleading because it says "when the Ghosthawk is presented with a clear threat" You should bold the clear portion of the statement and it would not be misleading. 20 hours ago, Mikey Ruth said: Another rule caused by bw. Aka the titan ghost hawk engagement. No, this was in the previous handbook and mistakenly taken out. Example was added for clarification purposes only. Quote Link to comment
Pledge 2292 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Can confirm, somebody took it out on accident Quote Link to comment
Fedot 1158 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 18 hours ago, Pledge said: Can confirm, somebody took it out on accident "accident" DB heckers st1k3 ag41n Quote Link to comment
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