Y A Y O 235 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Let’s be honest, cops are too fucking good in the sense of advantage. When I do a fed I shouldn’t see 20 cops log on to the point that they outnumber us. If they come back with free kits and a ghost hawk AND more numbers Come on now Quote Link to comment
Caleb Snackbar 198 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Then why don’t you log more people? Not like we force you to not log more on 3 Quote Link to comment
Fuzz^ 243 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 The only problem is the sgt+ vest that can tank a 7.62 mag 1 Quote Link to comment
yung matt 129 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 get good than Quote Link to comment
DeadPool 4376 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ybk said: Let’s be honest, cops are too fucking good in the sense of advantage. When I do a fed I shouldn’t see 20 cops log on to the point that they outnumber us. If they come back with free kits and a ghost hawk AND more numbers Come on now Let me break it down for ya. Big gangs need to big gang strats. Small gangs need to do small gangs starts. If you are a big gang 15+ people doing dome and gate 1 strat you are gonna lose. Why? 2-3 people in one corner make easy lethal and montage clips. Using OG strats like 1-2 man per tower and 1-2 man covering the tower for a 15+ man fed will work better. Why? Loosing one gate means you lose 1-2 people not 3-4 at a time. Doing the dome strat requires you to peek in CQC. CQC is a deputies best combat advantage. why? Sting op at close range. Dome strat requires you to peek a lot and very often. why is that bad? Because a lethal can very easy bait a nonlethal and boom you are dead because you have to peek at CQC. Also if you get tazed at CQC it is very east for cop to rip your firing pin. Also very to get crossfired by a gang mate. After being crossfired you lose an epi pen and time. Just my 2 cents on the current feds. Also, Apes and trident made over a 100 mil in a week off of the old strats not by cowering into a corner. 59 minutes ago, Fuzz^ said: The only problem is the sgt+ vest that can tank a 7.62 mag false 55 minutes ago, yung matt said: get good than If getting good was the problem then why did NXs get smacked 2 days in a row at fed? 1 hour ago, Caleb Snackbar said: Then why don’t you log more people? Not like we force you to not log more on Numbers arent a big deal. It is the strat they use that determines how they win. 6 Quote Link to comment
Y A Y O 235 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deadpool said: Let me break it down for ya. Big gangs need to big gang strats. Small gangs need to do small gangs starts. If you are a big gang 15+ people doing dome and gate 1 strat you are gonna lose. Why? 2-3 people in one corner make easy lethal and montage clips. Using OG strats like 1-2 man per tower and 1-2 man covering the tower for a 15+ man fed will work better. Why? Loosing one gate means you lose 1-2 people not 3-4 at a time. Doing the dome strat requires you to peek in CQC. CQC is a deputies best combat advantage. why? Sting op at close range. Dome strat requires you to peek a lot and very often. why is that bad? Because a lethal can very easy bait a nonlethal and boom you are dead because you have to peek at CQC. Also if you get tazed at CQC it is very east for cop to rip your firing pin. Also very to get crossfired by a gang mate. After being crossfired you lose an epi pen and time. Just my 2 cents on the current feds. Also, Apes and trident made over a 100 mil in a week off of the old strats not by cowering into a corner. false If getting good was the problem then why did NXs get smacked 2 days in a row at fed? Numbers arent a big deal. It is the strat they use that determines how they win. numbers are a pretty fat deal tbh 1 hour ago, Caleb Snackbar said: Then why don’t you log more people? Not like we force you to not log more on why the server can only hold 110 Quote Link to comment
DeadPool 4376 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, ybk said: numbers are a pretty fat deal tbh why the server can only hold 110 Numbers are a compensation for skill that was the definition of APES. If you have 15-20 players doing a fed you should not lose if you play smart and defensive. The fed is being attacked by cops. If cops attack then that means you defend. Use cop rules to your advantage. Wave rule all cops must die before next wave can start. How to abuse wave rule? Kill all lethals then leg a po or deputy then hide from him. Let the timer run out on the bomb. Best way I say it is "You need to milk the cow before you kill the cow". I once did a 8 man BW against a 17 man cop stack with 6 lethals. Numbers dont mean shit if you know how to play strats and play defensive. 2 Quote Link to comment
kev 423 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Deadpool said: Let me break it down for ya. Big gangs need to big gang strats. Small gangs need to do small gangs starts. If you are a big gang 15+ people doing dome and gate 1 strat you are gonna lose. Why? 2-3 people in one corner make easy lethal and montage clips. Using OG strats like 1-2 man per tower and 1-2 man covering the tower for a 15+ man fed will work better. Why? Loosing one gate means you lose 1-2 people not 3-4 at a time. Doing the dome strat requires you to peek in CQC. CQC is a deputies best combat advantage. why? Sting op at close range. Dome strat requires you to peek a lot and very often. why is that bad? Because a lethal can very easy bait a nonlethal and boom you are dead because you have to peek at CQC. Also if you get tazed at CQC it is very east for cop to rip your firing pin. Also very to get crossfired by a gang mate. After being crossfired you lose an epi pen and time. Just my 2 cents on the current feds. Also, Apes and trident made over a 100 mil in a week off of the old strats not by cowering into a corner. false If getting good was the problem then why did NXs get smacked 2 days in a row at fed? Numbers arent a big deal. It is the strat they use that determines how they win. Trident made 96mil in one day selling bars at 55,000 so with inflation of todays economy (69,000 per bar) thats roughly 117mil in a day along with a successful bw with shit gear. Beat that shit boys Edited September 28, 2018 by kev Quote Link to comment
KrispyK 22 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Deadpool said: Let me break it down for ya. Big gangs need to big gang strats. Small gangs need to do small gangs starts. If you are a big gang 15+ people doing dome and gate 1 strat you are gonna lose. Why? 2-3 people in one corner make easy lethal and montage clips. Using OG strats like 1-2 man per tower and 1-2 man covering the tower for a 15+ man fed will work better. Why? Loosing one gate means you lose 1-2 people not 3-4 at a time. Doing the dome strat requires you to peek in CQC. CQC is a deputies best combat advantage. why? Sting op at close range. Dome strat requires you to peek a lot and very often. why is that bad? Because a lethal can very easy bait a nonlethal and boom you are dead because you have to peek at CQC. Also if you get tazed at CQC it is very east for cop to rip your firing pin. Also very to get crossfired by a gang mate. After being crossfired you lose an epi pen and time. Just my 2 cents on the current feds. Also, Apes and trident made over a 100 mil in a week off of the old strats not by cowering into a corner. false If getting good was the problem then why did NXs get smacked 2 days in a row at fed? Numbers arent a big deal. It is the strat they use that determines how they win. didnt kev buy that money 1 Quote Link to comment
DeadPool 4376 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, Kardes said: didnt kev buy that money No he bought duped money then touched funds and got 80 mil ripped Quote Link to comment
Toasty 1564 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 remove the fed, remove the apd. problem solved. 1 Quote Link to comment
MrRylex 26 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Ruby strat. That's all Quote Link to comment
Panda :) 1916 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Fuzz^ said: The only problem is the sgt+ vest that can tank a 7.62 mag I agree it’s over powered and I am not saying that in the sense that I do not like it I believe all senior ranks are well balanced what you guys don’t understand is that there is only 5 sergeants most of the time sometimes there is exceptions and there I like 6 but 5 five out of the let’s say 250 APD members and there is 5 lts 5 sergeants 2 deputy chiefs and 1 chief and the chiefs most of the time do not have much time to play so let’s just take them out of the equation so there is 10 people out of the 250 probably more tbh that have this “OP” gear and you guys have access to csats and 7.62 if you can’t afford them not our fault don’t rob a government federal reserve with pea shooters and you also shouldn’t do a fed with less than 13 IMO my point is there is 10+ of you and maybe a 20 cop stack and maybe 2 or 3 of the cops have the same gear as you maybe a little better and the rest have a massive disadvantage and you can’t win do not complain about the APD equipment being op. 1 Quote Link to comment
yung matt 129 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 I miss apes 1 Quote Link to comment
Y A Y O 235 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Deadpool said: Numbers are a compensation for skill that was the definition of APES. If you have 15-20 players doing a fed you should not lose if you play smart and defensive. The fed is being attacked by cops. If cops attack then that means you defend. Use cop rules to your advantage. Wave rule all cops must die before next wave can start. How to abuse wave rule? Kill all lethals then leg a po or deputy then hide from him. Let the timer run out on the bomb. Best way I say it is "You need to milk the cow before you kill the cow". I once did a 8 man BW against a 17 man cop stack with 6 lethals. Numbers dont mean shit if you know how to play strats and play defensive. All I’m saying is that the number of cops shouldn’t overcome the number of civs Having 30 cops on one server is retarded. Not to mention the abilities and havoc it creates on the servers without cop Quote Link to comment
PopPop 72 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 10 hours ago, ybk said: Let’s be honest, cops are too fucking good in the sense of advantage. When I do a fed I shouldn’t see 20 cops log on to the point that they outnumber us. If they come back with free kits and a ghost hawk AND more numbers Come on now Ghosthawks are not so big with they get hit with a titan >:). 1 Quote Link to comment
Y A Y O 235 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, PopPop said: Ghosthawks are not so big with they get hit with a titan >:). When insurance is like 200k and you could just come back with 3 more it doesn’t really matter >:} Quote Link to comment
DeadPool 4376 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 6 hours ago, ybk said: All I’m saying is that the number of cops shouldn’t overcome the number of civs Having 30 cops on one server is retarded. Not to mention the abilities and havoc it creates on the servers without cop In Trident and APEs. The fed wasnt real until we had Chrissgg and Pledge pull 5 hunters per wave with 25 cops and they gave pos sdars. We still managed to get 100 mil a week. If we can do that as just a bunch of washed carreer cops I think any random gang with a brain can do it. 3 hours ago, ybk said: When insurance is like 200k and you could just come back with 3 more it doesn’t really matter >:} wrong hawk insurance is 480k Quote Link to comment
Y A Y O 235 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Deadpool said: In Trident and APEs. The fed wasnt real until we had Chrissgg and Pledge pull 5 hunters per wave with 25 cops and they gave pos sdars. We still managed to get 100 mil a week. If we can do that as just a bunch of washed carreer cops I think any random gang with a brain can do it. wrong hawk insurance is 480k Meh All I’m saying is that civs spend 250k or more per load out whilst cops get it free unless their robbed It should actually be a challenge for each side, not a retard fight that you know one side will win Quote Link to comment
yung matt 129 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 39 minutes ago, ybk said: Meh All I’m saying is that civs spend 250k or more per load out whilst cops get it free unless their robbed It should actually be a challenge for each side, not a retard fight that you know one side will win So ur telling me that cops should pay for their load outs every time they die??? Quote Link to comment
Greenarrow 197 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ybk said: Meh All I’m saying is that civs spend 250k or more per load out whilst cops get it free unless their robbed It should actually be a challenge for each side, not a retard fight that you know one side will win people need to stop complaining about cops not spending money when they die. go for something realistic like 1min respawn timers. Quote Link to comment
Y A Y O 235 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 4 hours ago, yung matt said: So ur telling me that cops should pay for their load outs every time they die??? shut up your gay Quote Link to comment
yung matt 129 Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, ybk said: shut up your gay exactly Quote Link to comment
Skar 43 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/27/2018 at 8:14 PM, MrRylex said: Ruby strat. That's all Quote Link to comment
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