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2 hours ago, Dmoney said:

what is an absolute fact is that some people in tp and nemesis are cheating, some admins know it (because theyre in the gang or friends) and nothing happens to them. thats a fact because ive seen it first hand. this server is a buddy system when it comes to cheating. im not trying to kill the server with saying that cause i enjoy olympus but that is a fact lol

youre completely right, shit i know an admin that cheats this very moment and have screenshot and proof of it in messages, but its all a buddy system, he wont get banned they'll just throw it under the rug

If you've got someone that's cheating, publicly broadcast it if you have proof, submit a player report on it, or PM me directly, up to you. If no one says anything, there's a less of a chance we know.

As I've said I don't know how many times, 90% of my time spent on this server is dealing with cheaters. I don't like cheaters.
I don't care who you know or who you are, if you're cheating and I know, you're not playing our server.

fuckin dante

24 minutes ago, Fraali said:

If you've got someone that's cheating, publicly broadcast it if you have proof, submit a player report on it, or PM me directly, up to you. If no one says anything, there's a less of a chance we know.

As I've said I don't know how many times, 90% of my time spent on this server is dealing with cheaters. I don't like cheaters.
I don't care who you know or who you are, if you're cheating and I know, you're not playing our server.

 

You spend 90% of the time on the server dealing with cheaters and havent banned nemesis yet? 

You banned my friend for having boxes when my dudes literally a retard. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Ddosed said:

fuckin dante

 

You spend 90% of the time on the server dealing with cheaters and havent banned nemesis yet? 

You banned my friend for having boxes when my dudes literally a retard. 

 

I banned your friend because he was cheating... Like what? If you think the potatoes in Nemesis are cheating, you have another thing coming...

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12k hours and decent shots = must be cheating.. you play a game that has some of the worst net code I’ve ever seen.. sometimes lag is just lag…

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On 12/10/2024 at 3:12 AM, Tensioncap420 said:

people abusing compensation for just gain and not to receive equal value (than you get banned)

@ -dante-  Nah bro that shit doesn't happen you are cooked

On 12/10/2024 at 6:44 AM, Fraali said:

People that only play to get you banned has always been a thing, and has only been getting worse due to (i think) the "no comp" mentality. I'll just let you know "no comp" means fuck all. If you break a rule intentionally, then regardless of comp, you may still get banned. If you break a rule and its obviously on accident, then there's probably going to be more leniency especially if you try to right your wrong.

Proper compensation is when it is equal to or slightly greater than what the player lost. Say you accidentally RDM a naked when you're fighting someone else. They ask for 1m comp. You're not required to give them 1m. If they are naked in kav not doing anything, they lost 15k if they got revived plus the time they spent on the ground. Normally something like 50-100k is fine for this type of thing. Obviously it's going to change dependant on the situation and such.

Dude, you said it well.
But it contradicts what @ David Miller  and @ CaloomClark  did.
I hope you want to hear their explanation

We've talked about this before.

The senior admins thought it only happened to us * Dever )

, but in reality it happens to all players on the server.

There is tolerance from some corrupt admins towards their friends.

@ -dante- @ Xlax the best 

and fuck you @ Brandyn

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14 hours ago, MAV said:

12k hours and decent shots = must be cheating.. you play a game that has some of the worst net code I’ve ever seen.. sometimes lag is just lag…

Def, a lot of the cheating accusations would be disproven by a kill cam.

Still, there are some groups and some players who are sketchy as hell even if most cheating isn't.

On 1/12/2025 at 2:54 AM, Fraali said:

If you've got someone that's cheating, publicly broadcast it if you have proof, submit a player report on it, or PM me directly, up to you. If no one says anything, there's a less of a chance we know.

As I've said I don't know how many times, 90% of my time spent on this server is dealing with cheaters. I don't like cheaters.
I don't care who you know or who you are, if you're cheating and I know, you're not playing our server.

My friend, I sent you a private message a while ago. Please read it.

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34 minutes ago, -BATMAN- said:

My friend, I sent you a private message a while ago. Please read it.

I deal with cheaters and bugs, I don't deal with APD blacklists, or regular bans...

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On 12/10/2024 at 2:45 AM, proud said:

hardly doxxing? you played under my moms full name kys

Snitch cunt like you snitched on me for posting a pic of your sister 

On 12/9/2024 at 9:45 PM, proud said:

hardly doxxing? you played under my moms full name kys

that fact you were able to say kys and not get forum moderated is a statement in itself of the change of staff bc I have like 5 forum suspensions from that acronym alone

On 12/9/2024 at 9:43 PM, -dante- said:

I miss my fellow southern boy

If admins are bias make a staff IA and sr staff will punish bias admins 🙂 

ur so cool dante I miss you

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On 1/15/2025 at 1:19 AM, KudosTV said:

Would there be anyway for actual killcam in arma 3

Short answer: Technically, yes.
Long answer: The server wont be implementing something like this due to network, performance, and some other conflicting issues that are near impossible to resolve.

5 hours ago, Fraali said:

Short answer: Technically, yes.
Long answer: The server wont be implementing something like this due to network, performance, and some other conflicting issues that are near impossible to resolve.

Why don't you get better network? I want kill cam

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5 hours ago, noob poop said:

Short answer we don't want our cheater friends banned that we protect. Long answer go fuck yourself 

In actuality its much different.

To go more in depth about why we won't do kill cams:
The functions that would allow people to view something like this are completely blocked due to potential exploits from cheaters. The reason it can be done externally with logs is due to allowing the functions/commands outside of the main server.
This would also require somehow replicating 1:1 player movement, view angle, ammo, health, bullet paths, etc. on separate entities that aren't actually players. This is difficult to do due to object states changing over time, and being unable to change all of these things locally without affecting server-state along with MAJOR network desync/lag creation due to current Arma net throughput limitations . Outside of server, we don't have to worry about changing server state, or affecting network, thus can be replicated near 1:1 from logs (still isn't perfect due to some other limitations not mentioned).

If you think I don't want to implement something because it would ban cheaters, you really misunderstand what I do on this sever. If I allowed people to cheat on the server, I wouldn't have spent countless hours creating the Anti-Cheat that we have. It's not perfect and never will be, but it's done using an in-game language without access to engine commands or the ability to read memory, in addition to it just being a game of cat and mouse. They find an exploit, I find a fix, then they find a way around that fix, and I try to guess what they did so I can fix it again.

In the end, don't think we allow cheaters on the server. Report them. You can either submit a player report, or to me directly in DM's with any of kind of proof or suspicion. The people that get reported to me, I will always look into. Most of the time people complaining about cheaters are just wrong, however there have been times where they were spot on that they were cheating.

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7 minutes ago, Fraali said:

In actuality its much different.

To go more in depth about why we won't do kill cams:
The functions that would allow people to view something like this are completely blocked due to potential exploits from cheaters. The reason it can be done externally with logs is due to allowing the functions/commands outside of the main server.
This would also require somehow replicating 1:1 player movement, view angle, ammo, health, bullet paths, etc. on separate entities that aren't actually players. This is difficult to do due to object states changing over time, and being unable to change all of these things locally without affecting server-state along with MAJOR network desync/lag creation due to current Arma net throughput limitations . Outside of server, we don't have to worry about changing server state, or affecting network, thus can be replicated near 1:1 from logs (still isn't perfect due to some other limitations not mentioned).

If you think I don't want to implement something because it would ban cheaters, you really misunderstand what I do on this sever. If I allowed people to cheat on the server, I wouldn't have spent countless hours creating the Anti-Cheat that we have. It's not perfect and never will be, but it's done using an in-game language without access to engine commands or the ability to read memory, in addition to it just being a game of cat and mouse. They find an exploit, I find a fix, then they find a way around that fix, and I try to guess what they did so I can fix it again.

In the end, don't think we allow cheaters on the server. Report them. You can either submit a player report, or to me directly in DM's with any of kind of proof or suspicion. The people that get reported to me, I will always look into. Most of the time people complaining about cheaters are just wrong, however there have been times where they were spot on that they were cheating.

I aint reading allat 

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1 hour ago, Fraali said:

In actuality its much different.

To go more in depth about why we won't do kill cams:
The functions that would allow people to view something like this are completely blocked due to potential exploits from cheaters. The reason it can be done externally with logs is due to allowing the functions/commands outside of the main server.
This would also require somehow replicating 1:1 player movement, view angle, ammo, health, bullet paths, etc. on separate entities that aren't actually players. This is difficult to do due to object states changing over time, and being unable to change all of these things locally without affecting server-state along with MAJOR network desync/lag creation due to current Arma net throughput limitations . Outside of server, we don't have to worry about changing server state, or affecting network, thus can be replicated near 1:1 from logs (still isn't perfect due to some other limitations not mentioned).

If you think I don't want to implement something because it would ban cheaters, you really misunderstand what I do on this sever. If I allowed people to cheat on the server, I wouldn't have spent countless hours creating the Anti-Cheat that we have. It's not perfect and never will be, but it's done using an in-game language without access to engine commands or the ability to read memory, in addition to it just being a game of cat and mouse. They find an exploit, I find a fix, then they find a way around that fix, and I try to guess what they did so I can fix it again.

In the end, don't think we allow cheaters on the server. Report them. You can either submit a player report, or to me directly in DM's with any of kind of proof or suspicion. The people that get reported to me, I will always look into. Most of the time people complaining about cheaters are just wrong, however there have been times where they were spot on that they were cheating.

Don’t worry fralii I read it all. (Even though you deleted my kav PD house you bitch)

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On 12/10/2024 at 6:44 AM, Fraali said:

Just to address a few points, cause this gets brought up more frequently recently.

If you have an issue with bias, please do submit a staff IA. There have been a few recently that have been submitted, acknowledged, and the staff members have been reprimanded as well as their tickets being watched to ensure proper responses.

Admins allowing people to cheat? If you know of someone cheating, they will get banned. If you know of a staff member who isn't banning someone even though they know they are cheating, I will personally remove them. That shit is not okay.

People that only play to get you banned has always been a thing, and has only been getting worse due to (i think) the "no comp" mentality. I'll just let you know "no comp" means fuck all. If you break a rule intentionally, then regardless of comp, you may still get banned. If you break a rule and its obviously on accident, then there's probably going to be more leniency especially if you try to right your wrong.

Proper compensation is when it is equal to or slightly greater than what the player lost. Say you accidentally RDM a naked when you're fighting someone else. They ask for 1m comp. You're not required to give them 1m. If they are naked in kav not doing anything, they lost 15k if they got revived plus the time they spent on the ground. Normally something like 50-100k is fine for this type of thing. Obviously it's going to change dependant on the situation and such.

 

I do know that the Senior Admins do listen to players about this sort of thing, especially if backed up by evidence. I'm not the one who deals with these kinds of reports, though I do take a look and give opinions when I have some time.

 

You really think Ryan actually has much to do with the server other than pop around to make sure we are running the server still?

I think the bans imposed on people who break the rules could be more deterrent.

So, I'm sure this has been thought about before and a decision has been made, but is the banned person charged for the damage he caused to the other party? Yes, he is banned as a punishment, but is money deducted from this person's bank account?

Many people who break the rules or harm another player by violating the rules risk getting banned rather than paying money. However, if you deduct the money for the damage caused by the banned person from their bank account, these people will try to reach a compromise on the amount or situation via Dispute rather than being banned, and as a result, being banned will become more deterrent because they will lose their moneys both way (if they realy violeted the rules).

22 hours ago, Fraali said:

Short answer: Technically, yes.
Long answer: The server wont be implementing something like this due to network, performance, and some other conflicting issues that are near impossible to resolve.

well that's understandable, what if we had more moderators, that have a simple goal find cheaters and report them to admins, like when there is gun fight in warzone the mods will go spectate players and so on. I would be personally down for this on my off time to just spectate certain players

2 hours ago, KudosTV said:

well that's understandable, what if we had more moderators, that have a simple goal find cheaters and report them to admins, like when there is gun fight in warzone the mods will go spectate players and so on. I would be personally down for this on my off time to just spectate certain players

 Nah 

20 hours ago, Gamer 36 said:

Why don't you get better network? I want kill cam

lol tell me you don’t know what your talking about out without telling me you don’t know what your talking about..

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On 12/9/2024 at 8:12 PM, Tensioncap420 said:

as someone that put almost 1k hours to this it sucks to see where this community is headed

 

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