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[Noble 1720]

Oh dear i wont argue this anymore im not upset because i lost money.

[TheHeroNoob 397]

I've gained 30mil from the casino and I only do bets I know I can lose. Best thing to do is to play with house money not try and bet everything because you'll lose and try to come back and lose more. I've also seen more people doing runs recently than ever before which is amazing. No one is fucking with the bank stats, the best strategy for banks was to plant the bomb, fly in the air and wait for apd response, if they don't come (which was like %50 of the time) free money, but if they did it's as simple as flying away. Best bank strat and honestly it probably still is if you and 2 other apes can wait. I'm personally loving the new update, less money in the economy because of people betting everything and being dumb, runs are wayyyy faster and easier, more events happening now than ever with the addition of the automatic airdrop and conquest, and there is a new art gallery to rob which looks like fun. It's just better in my opinion. It's a shame people wanna DDOS the server but when there is nothing anyone can really do about it what're ya gonna do, just wait. 

[Noahhh! 3599]

1 hour ago, Blueangelman36 said:

I don't disagree that people are stupid for betting all their money away. What we do disagree on is the level of understanding between OS and the community as a whole.

This entire thread has turned into a Noble bashing thread, but the key is that this is larger than "noble bashing" (although it is a popular sport here). However, what I don't understand is the inconsistency. We get bashed by sAPD and OS for simultaneously having too many members and doing too much, while having too much money and not doing enough. In reality, Noble has the most experience out of almost any other gang on this server with new players (if you only count established gangs, we certainly are the only ones) and we constantly take shit for it. So while everyone on here says we're shitters, they also want us to continue to push BWs and Feds? Then when we do them, and loose a few, we're still shitters and should quit? We can't win.

Also for clarity, we, as a gang, don't give a fuck about what anyone in here thinks about us (again, think we've made that clear) but it is funny to watch Noble get blamed for *everything* and called retarded for trying to discuss things, when in reality we aren't the ones who are driving new players (and established ones) off the server.

Well, we agree on a hell of a lot more than we disagree on.

[Python1717 2]

1 hour ago, Strafe said:

you dont get addicted by them adding a casino you get addicted by YOUR choice to go play and get addicted.
At the end of the day for most people its their fault.

this guy is a fucking retard. "iTs yOuR ChOiCe tO pLaY IN CaSInO" Yeah no fucking shit. Its also your choice to drink and do drugs but everyone drinks and atleast tries drugs AND THATS HOW U GET ADDICTED ASSHAT.

No shit he tried the Casino it was brand fucking new and he had like 280m so he played. lost. chased his loses. lost more. went big. lost. 210 go BrrrRrRRr. 

BUT IT DOESNT HELP THAT THE CASINO IS FUCKING RIGGED. Like actually, not speculation, it is rigged. 

[Poon 191]

imagine thinking that this post is about loosing money in a virtual casino. big clown emoji

[Noahhh! 3599]

12 minutes ago, Python1717 said:

this guy is a fucking retard. "iTs yOuR ChOiCe tO pLaY IN CaSInO" Yeah no fucking shit. Its also your choice to drink and do drugs but everyone drinks and atleast tries drugs AND THATS HOW U GET ADDICTED ASSHAT.

No shit he tried the Casino it was brand fucking new and he had like 280m so he played. lost. chased his loses. lost more. went big. lost. 210 go BrrrRrRRr. 

BUT IT DOESNT HELP THAT THE CASINO IS FUCKING RIGGED. Like actually, not speculation, it is rigged. 

Ummmm, how else does a casino make money? The house always wins. Hence why casinos exist IRL... They make money.

[Python1717 2]

Just now, Noahhh! said:

Ummmm, how else does a casino make money? The house always wins. Hence why casinos exist IRL... They make money.

Noah I know casinos. "The house always wins" is based in statistics, know as the house edge. The house edge is actually really small, like less than 2% when it comes to games like blackjack and roulette. ( not slots, slots are fucking rigged to shit) and that House edge comes from how the games are played,  not by a fucking casino royal style magnate that fucking magically makes the ball fall red instead of black. 

The house edge comes from shit like green. thats why there is single, double, and sometimes triple 0 roulette. 

The house edge from blackjack comes from the player needs to hit first. if a player hits on a 12, gets a K and busts the house wins BUT the house in the same hand might have bust aswell but the player had to go first so the dealer is always favored. 

 

BUT OLYMPUS CASINO IS RIGGED ON FUCKING BET SIZE. THE BIGGER THE BET THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO LOOSE. 

 

ALSO THE BLACKJACK IN THE CASINO ISNT EVEN CORRECT BLACKJACK, THE DEALER IS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HIT ON A 17 BUT OLYMPUS STAFF ALLOWED IT TO MAKE IT "more balanced" 

 

MOTHER FFUCKER IT JUST MAKES THE HOUSE EDGE MORE THUS MORE INBALANCED.

 

[Noahhh! 3599]

4 minutes ago, Python1717 said:

BUT OLYMPUS CASINO IS RIGGED ON FUCKING BET SIZE. THE BIGGER THE BET THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO LOOSE. 

 

ALSO THE BLACKJACK IN THE CASINO ISNT EVEN CORRECT BLACKJACK, THE DEALER IS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HIT ON A 17 BUT OLYMPUS STAFF ALLOWED IT TO MAKE IT "more balanced" 

 

MOTHER FFUCKER IT JUST MAKES THE HOUSE EDGE MORE THUS MORE INBALANCED.

People know he hits on 17, still bet millions and lose millions.

[Casperr 20]

2 hours ago, Blueangelman36 said:

He'll have to join civ council, he doesn't meet the weight requirement for APD

I had no issue with the guy at first. But dude lost all of my respect when I accidentally fail crossfired someone because I thought there was a PO in the bush. Instantly offered comp and was told to “fuck off”, and “R E P O R T E D”, then he went crying for a live ban after I tried to make things right, solely because I’m in a gang he doesn’t like. 
That’s the kind of APD we need in Oly. Funny how he talks about trying to “change the server for the better” too

[Python1717 2]

19 minutes ago, Noahhh! said:

People know he hits on 17, still bet millions and lose millions.

The reason why the house edge in established casinos is so low BECAUSE THEY NEED PEOPLE TO COME BACK.  OS didnt create a casino they created a money pit. 

Why? for the crazy rich. they needed a way to level the playing field. but they didnt cut the tall grass instead THEY JUST FUCKING MASSIVE FUCKING SINKHOLE IN THE MIDDLE.

It didn't nerf the crazy rich it fucking nerfed everyone who played there. A lot of poorer players lost everything they had because they had the same problem Noble did. They chased their loses. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT NONE OF THEM CAUGHT UP TO THEIR LOSES BECAUSE ITS FUCKING RIGGED.

Your also missing my point. Of fucking course people will still gamble EVEN if they know its rigged because its FUN and ADDICTING. 

Serious congratz to everyone who could loose a couple million and walk away. Some people cant. 

Edit: If OS made a legit casino, with out the insane riggedness. There would still be idiots that loose everything, but by making the casino so impossible to win at its just going to drain every corner of the server. Poor or rich.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Python1717

[Kamikaze 1172]

45 minutes ago, Python1717 said:

 Its also your choice to drink and do drugs but everyone drinks and atleast tries drugs AND THATS HOW U GET ADDICTED ASSHAT.

This has to be the dumbest argument I've ever fucking heard, first off unless you are some beta cuck nobody is going to make you do shit. NOBODY gets addicted from "trying" you have to want that shit yourself you don't form a dependency from trying.

[billdroid 792]

This is the dumbest post I’ve ever read. You are complaining about losing your virtual money in a casino. Grow up lol

[Python1717 2]

5 minutes ago, Kamikaze said:

 NOBODY gets addicted from "trying" you have to want that shit yourself you don't form a dependency from trying.

Nah that is the dumbest argument I've ever fucking heard. BECAUSE U ARE SPITTING STRAIGHT FICTION.

Get some real world experience with addiction, specifically gambling. when it comes to gambling it ACTUALLY ONLY TAKES ONE BET, to get addicted.

Just because u smoked a little pot or tried something even harder and didn't get addicted CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO YOUR FUCKING GENETICS RETARD. GOOGLE IT.

Addiction tendencies are in your DNA, some are more immune than others. Don't pipe up when u dont know shit. 

[Kamikaze 1172]

1 minute ago, Python1717 said:

Nah that is the dumbest argument I've ever fucking heard. BECAUSE U ARE SPITTING STRAIGHT FICTION.

Get some real world experience with addiction, specifically gambling. when it comes to gambling it ACTUALLY ONLY TAKES ONE BET, to get addicted.

Just because u smoked a little pot or tried something even harder and didn't get addicted CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO YOUR FUCKING GENETICS RETARD. GOOGLE IT.

Addiction tendencies are in your DNA, some are more immune than others. Don't pipe up when u dont know shit. 

idgaf where u think u came from was some shit or not but I've been around the block and I can sure as hell tell you, you are wrong. I know numerous people that are addicted to one thing or another and it didn't stem from them just "trying" something, 95% of the people I know that got addicted to shit was because they couldn't handle the come down. 

 

also will add getting addicted to "pot?" L O L

[Hunter 130]

5 hours ago, Noble said:

I lost 210m to this casino and  I'm done with the rants about how the cas never should have happened and its time for a real talk. OS, the  player base is CLEARLY not happy with what you have done to the server. You claim that this entire thing was to take from the rich and "appeal to new players". I'm sorry but the influx of new players on a 7 year old game will not equal the amount of people being pushed off of the server. The disconnect between player and staff has NEVER been this bad in my 3.5 years on here and its very disappointing to see, Not only did you lie to us about %, you also continue to say that this is a good thing and that it brings in new players. I dont think little Timmy wants to do his first diamond run, go to the casino and loose it all :^). Olympus has been kept alive through many different ownerships and staff members because of its strong community. Why should staff target the exact people who keep this server alive. With the new events of ddos, new players cant make money and the old players that lost it all cant either. No one is coming to Olympus now to grind runs. We play because we know each other and enjoy both combat and player interaction on a massive map where anything can happen. To be honest I dont even see a silver lining because its too late to do anything. To recap, 1.OS has targeted the same people that keep the server alive 2. Disguised a money pit as a "fair" casino 3. Continued to tell us that its a good thing we have all lost millions 4. Tell us it will help new players on a 7 year old game. 5. Told us to do runs when they cant keep their server up. I'm nothing but sad as to what this update has done to this AMAZING community. 

it's called a casino for a reason personally what I believe OS should do is increase the odds of winning 

[Python1717 2]

14 minutes ago, Kamikaze said:

idgaf where u think u came from was some shit or not but I've been around the block and I can sure as hell tell you, you are wrong. I know numerous people that are addicted to one thing or another and it didn't stem from them just "trying" something, 95% of the people I know that got addicted to shit was because they couldn't handle the come down. 

 

also will add getting addicted to "pot?" L O L

https://www.nhs.uk/news/genetics-and-stem-cells/gambling-addiction-linked-to-genes/ 

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/genetics-epigenetics-addiction

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2715956/

https://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/is-addiction-a-disease.htm

"iVe bEeN aRouND thE bLoCK" :Kappa:

You are a retard. You just proved my point. A persons ability to handle with a relapse, come down, detox is based on a persons health but MAINLY FUCKING GENETICS. AHAHAHAHAH shit for brains.

"95% of the people I know that got addicted... couldn't handle the come down" So 95% of the people you know that got addicted all had poor genetics in resisting addiction?

and No I dont believe you. No fucking way that 95% got addicted just because they couldnt handle the come down. Your an idiot for not know otherwise. 

[Hunter 130]

39 minutes ago, Python1717 said:

The reason why the house edge in established casinos is so low BECAUSE THEY NEED PEOPLE TO COME BACK.  OS didnt create a casino they created a money pit. 

Why? for the crazy rich. they needed a way to level the playing field. but they didnt cut the tall grass instead THEY JUST FUCKING MASSIVE FUCKING SINKHOLE IN THE MIDDLE.

It didn't nerf the crazy rich it fucking nerfed everyone who played there. A lot of poorer players lost everything they had because they had the same problem Noble did. They chased their loses. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT NONE OF THEM CAUGHT UP TO THEIR LOSES BECAUSE ITS FUCKING RIGGED.

Your also missing my point. Of fucking course people will still gamble EVEN if they know its rigged because its FUN and ADDICTING. 

Serious congratz to everyone who could loose a couple million and walk away. Some people cant. 

Edit: If OS made a legit casino, with out the insane riggedness. There would still be idiots that loose everything, but by making the casino so impossible to win at its just going to drain every corner of the server. Poor or rich.

you realize people chased there money because they were bored so they kept betting i lost 26m then made 20m the next day from the casino people just need to learn when to quit 

[Python1717 2]

Just now, Vigi easy money said:

you realize people chased there money because they were bored so they kept betting i lost 26m then made 20m the next day from the casino people just need to learn when to quit 

Yep.

[Hunter 130]

Just now, Python1717 said:

https://www.nhs.uk/news/genetics-and-stem-cells/gambling-addiction-linked-to-genes/ 

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/genetics-epigenetics-addiction

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2715956/

https://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/is-addiction-a-disease.htm

"iVe bEeN aRouND thE bLoCK" :Kappa:

You are a retard. You just proved my point. A persons ability to handle with a relapse, come down, detox is based on a persons health but MAINLY FUCKING GENETICS. AHAHAHAHAH shit for brains.

"95% of the people I know that got addicted... couldn't handle the come down" So 95% of the people you know that got addicted all had poor genetics in resisting addiction?

and No I dont believe you. No fucking way that 95% got addicted just because they couldnt handle the come down. Your an idiot for not know otherwise. 

bruh if your addicted to gambling see a  medical professional literaly people only gamble because they are willing to take the 50/50 odds  or they are bored usual the bored part 

[milos inflated dev2 ego 4127]

rabid can u fix the mine craft server its down @rabid

[Grandma Gary 10090]

1 hour ago, Python1717 said:

Noah I know casinos. "The house always wins" is based in statistics, know as the house edge. The house edge is actually really small, like less than 2% when it comes to games like blackjack and roulette. ( not slots, slots are fucking rigged to shit) and that House edge comes from how the games are played,  not by a fucking casino royal style magnate that fucking magically makes the ball fall red instead of black. 

The house edge comes from shit like green. thats why there is single, double, and sometimes triple 0 roulette. 

The house edge from blackjack comes from the player needs to hit first. if a player hits on a 12, gets a K and busts the house wins BUT the house in the same hand might have bust aswell but the player had to go first so the dealer is always favored. 

 

BUT OLYMPUS CASINO IS RIGGED ON FUCKING BET SIZE. THE BIGGER THE BET THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO LOOSE. 

 

ALSO THE BLACKJACK IN THE CASINO ISNT EVEN CORRECT BLACKJACK, THE DEALER IS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HIT ON A 17 BUT OLYMPUS STAFF ALLOWED IT TO MAKE IT "more balanced" 

 

MOTHER FFUCKER IT JUST MAKES THE HOUSE EDGE MORE THUS MORE INBALANCED.

 

I played quite a lot of slots, blackjack and roulette and there is something off with the cheating bastard at blackjack.  Slots I still have no idea wtf you need for a win, I was getting 3 different things and winning sometimes.

Roulette though seems 49/49/2 red, black and green.  I watched people win over and over and and some lose over and over.

That said I have 0 sympathy for people with "gambling addictions" who gamble virtual currency with 0 actual value and can't handle losing.  Literally don't bet you apes.

[Noahhh! 3599]

1 minute ago, Grandma Gary said:

you apes.

 Monkey see other monkey lose monies so monkey do what other monkey do and lose money too.

[CHAZ 2.0 104]

Don’t bet don’t wast you money easy 

[Python1717 2]

5 minutes ago, Grandma Gary said:

I played quite a lot of slots, blackjack and roulette and there is something off with the cheating bastard at blackjack.  Slots I still have no idea wtf you need for a win, I was getting 3 different things and winning sometimes.

Roulette though seems 49/49/2 red, black and green.  I watched people win over and over and and some lose over and over.

That said I have 0 sympathy for people with "gambling addictions" who gamble virtual currency with 0 actual value and can't handle losing.  Literally don't bet you apes.

For the record I lost 1m in the casino and dipped plus your wrong. The money has value. Yall ban people for buying ingame currency with real dollars thus it has real value.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Python1717

[Grandma Gary 10090]

4 minutes ago, Python1717 said:

For the record I lost 1m in the casino and dipped plus your wrong. The money has value. Yall ban people for buying ingame currency with real dollars thus it has real value.

I wonder if the people who got banned would consider it worth it.