Locked APD Handbook Update 11/10/20

[Millennium 5800]

2 minutes ago, Bloodmoon said:

There is no decision here, this is just a clarification. Jets that have visible weapons showing have always met the definition of an armed vehicle.

Really? so does that mean that armed planes aren't armed vehicles since they dont have any visible weapons. You are fucking reaching for stuff right now, just stop.

It is a jet that can't even use guns.

and yes there is a decision. You decided to make them illegal

[Venomm 2244]

found the SAPD boxing ring

[Bloodmoon 2222]

1 minute ago, Millennium said:

Really? so does that mean that armed planes aren't armed vehicles since they dont have any visible weapons. You are fucking reaching for stuff right now, just stop.

No, the ARMED plane has a usable weapon so it meets the definition of an armed vehicle.

2 minutes ago, Millennium said:

and yes there is a decision. You decided to make them illegal

Again, they have a visible weapon so they have always met the definition of being an armed vehicle.

[Airborne 630]

[Zeuse 1240]

4 minutes ago, Millennium said:

except its not a good decision.

Jets are only accessible to players with a lot of money and can be used against both old and new players who are doing runs.  How is them being illegal not good for the server?

[Millennium 5800]

Majority of the time that someone pulls jets is to fly around and have fun in them. 

Look at Blue angel in Noble

There was Chicago jack almost daily posting fly bys in them and formations and shit. 

They spend millions of their dollars to have fun in a jet knowing that if they crash that costs them 1.6 million dollars. Now if they land they have a chance of losing all that money.

[Bloodmoon 2222]

2 minutes ago, Millennium said:

Majority of the time that someone pulls jets is to fly around and have fun in them. 

Look at Blue angel in Noble

There was Chicago jack almost daily posting fly bys in them and formations and shit. 

They spend millions of their dollars to have fun in a jet knowing that if they crash that costs them 1.6 million dollars. Now if they land they have a chance of losing all that money.

Perhaps they shouldn't buy a military aircraft that is armed if they don't want to lose it. Thankfully last update they made an unarmed Caesar racing plane which is legal to own which is a good alternative.

[Noahhh! 3606]

Jet go fasht so jet mustht bee seizeded!

Musht ruin cibilian fun on serwver!

[Millennium 5800]

1 minute ago, Zeuse said:

Jets are only accessible to players with a lot of money and can be used against both old and new players who are doing runs.  How is them being illegal not good for the server?

Because hardly anyone ever actually uses Jets to fly around checking redzones. Yes you can do it, does anyone really do it? no.

 

2 minutes ago, Bloodmoon said:

Again, they have a visible weapon so they have always met the definition of being an armed vehicle.

Just because they have visible guns on a "Military tactical shooter video game" doesn't mean they should be considered an armed vehicle. The game itself doesn't have jets that don't have planes, so why are you punishing people for wanting to fly a jet which has the ability to shoot disabled.

[Tech 672]

@Millennium if you can't tell, @Bloodmoon is literally just trolling acting retarded.

That being said roundtables aren't supposed to be for trolling

[Millennium 5800]

Just now, Tech said:

@Millennium if you can't tell, @Bloodmoon is literally just trolling acting retarded.

 

I'm well aware. 

[Bloodmoon 2222]

Just now, Millennium said:

Just because they have visible guns on a "Military tactical shooter video game" doesn't mean they should be considered an armed vehicle. The game itself doesn't have jets that don't have planes, so why are you punishing people for wanting to fly a jet which has the ability to shoot disabled.

 

3 minutes ago, Bloodmoon said:

Thankfully last update they made an unarmed Caesar racing plane which is legal to own which is a good alternative.

 

[Millennium 5800]

Flying a plane isn't nearly as fun as flying a jet.

[Zeuse 1240]

Just now, Millennium said:

Yes you can do it, does anyone really do it? no.

Care to explain how you came to this conclusion?

[Blueangelman36 250]

34 minutes ago, Winters said:

Any armed vehicle, Ifrit, Strider, Hunter, Taru Bench, Jet Aircraft, Pharmaceutical vehicles and any variants of the Blackfish.

Can we get armed jets now at least?

But like seriously, why are jets now illegal? They have zero lethality, they just flex. Like - at what point in the conversation was it decided "yes the best way to add balance to the server is to make the actual most useless vehicle illegal"

I have every single jet on the server and I've killed more people with a hatchback. #MakeHatchbacksIllegal

[Airborne 630]

1 minute ago, Millennium said:

Flying a plane isn't nearly as fun as flying a jet.

That may be the case, but jets don't cohere to the two other core values of olympus fair and balanced.

[Millennium 5800]

Just now, Zeuse said:

Care to explain how you came to this conclusion?

from my 3,000 hours on the server.

from being in 6+ different gangs over the year including the big gangs which have money like Tree when it was thriving.

[Blueangelman36 250]

31 minutes ago, Bloodmoon said:

The jet can scout the map at supersonic speeds, the jet is armed (has weapons visible so it already met the definition of an illegal vehicle), and is not possible to deal with a jet as a cop unless it is stationary. 

The jet is armed with weapons we cannot use. What kind of argument is this?! Also there's an easy way to solve that (with the DLC jets) nd that's use the stealth versions! 

[Millennium 5800]

1 minute ago, Airborne said:

That may be the case, but jets don't cohere to the two other core values of olympus fair and balanced.

it is fair. it costs millions of dollars. Its utilitiy is scarce so it is pretty balanced seeing how expensive it is as well

there is a reason why it costs so much.

[Blueangelman36 250]

8 minutes ago, Bloodmoon said:

Perhaps they shouldn't buy a military aircraft that is armed if they don't want to lose it. Thankfully last update they made an unarmed Caesar racing plane which is legal to own which is a good alternative.

Comparing the racing single prop plane to a jet is like comparing Rabid to Tom Brady 

[DubbedSoap 80]

9 minutes ago, Bloodmoon said:

Perhaps they shouldn't buy a military aircraft that is armed if they don't want to lose it.

'cept it ain't armed 

[Millennium 5800]

Also if its about the camera that it has, do we need to bring up the camera on the hellcats that you guys have? I previously sat in a hellcat w/ Crenshaw 1.8km up from meth pro watching a Tempest processing and caught him when he left.

[Zeuse 1240]

Just now, Millennium said:

Also if its about the camera that it has, do we need to bring up the camera on the hellcats that you guys have? I previously sat in a hellcat 1.8km up from meth pro watching a Tempest processing and caught him when he left.

If we're bringing up hellcats we might as well bring up Blackfishes. 

[Hurricane 832]

5 minutes ago, Blueangelman36 said:

Can we get armed jets now at least?

But like seriously, why are jets now illegal? They have zero lethality, they just flex. Like - at what point in the conversation was it decided "yes the best way to add balance to the server is to make the actual most useless vehicle illegal"

I have every single jet on the server and I've killed more people with a hatchback. #MakeHatchbacksIllegal

You actually think that adding armed jets would be a great idea

[Millennium 5800]

Just now, Zeuse said:

If we're bringing up hellcats we might as well bring up Blackfishes. 

price already got increased to 5 mil

Just now, Hurricane said:

You actually think that adding armed jets would be a great idea

pretty sure he was memeing