"I AM THE FACTION LEADER AND I MAKE THE CHOICES!!!" "IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM GO TO DAVID MILLER!!" "ANOTHER ADMIN WITH NO RULE KNOWLEDGE"

[Orbit 476]

For Context:

Wywyh made his way to Kav to get some people up, upon arriving he was met with engagement (Leave or die), left and Tac Respawned during combat.

"Leave or die" Is engagement. 

Rule 1: Redeploying while engaged or to avoid an obvious hostage situation while on medic is considered combat logging
Rule 2: Proper roleplay Engagement is generally, but is not required to be, a demand followed by a threat.

Mr.Misc went to support and spoke to a few supervisors, then Marcus waddled his way into the channel. The supervisors talked thoroughly and could not reach a answer, so when Marcus came in he pulled his "Admin" "Head of Faction Card" to clearly allow medics to not be held to the handbook standard & server rule standard. I sent Marcus a TS MSG where he then dragged me and the clip below is what comes of our short lived brain dwindling talk.

https://medal.tv/games/arma-3/clips/ld6ECUB75cJ2TRCL0?invite=cr-MSx0RGMsMzM0NDg5OTkw&v=99 @ Marcus

 

[Wolffe 87]

It'd be one think if he redeployed to avoid engagement, but he did infact leave like he was commanded. APD says leave or die all the time in Kav, and we either all redeploy or fly away. Except me, I drive around in my strider

[-dante- 5734]

Couple things: 

 

1. Yes he was technically engaged and by server rule definition this is combat logging 

2. What’s also true is you told the medic to leave? If you said hands up or die or anything that would directly impact you if he logged. If he left the area and then tac respawned, then I also wouldn’t punish a medic either in this situation. Maybe a “hey in the future must wait the 5 minutes to avoid being in these situations” but that’s as far as it goes. 
 

In the muthinator era which is by far the most punishing era to fuck up as a medic, that’s prob the furthest it would go. Marcus as the head of RnR is able to police his medics how he wants. If you don’t like the decision, make a report and request sr admin. That being said, by the messages between you and sheriff, it seems more like you just wanted a free 350k for something that did not impact you even 1% more than you care about the validity of rule enforcement to me. 

[Wolffe 87]

Here's how I view it. Told medic to leave, therefore implying you have no intent to take him hostage. So what combat would he be avoiding by redeploying?

[thor 1788]

faggot

[692478290 15]

get a grip retard LITERALLY no one cares @ Orbit

[Wolffe 87]

If you're broke, just say so

[Millennium 6098]

This is just a petty ass report that you want money out of.

You told him to leave, so he left. Did he not think thoroughly and technically combat log, yes. Would I ban someone for this? Fuck no. Most I would do is a warning.

It's different if he did it to avoid you guys, but your instructions were to leave.

Also at least @ the man @ David Miller

[Element_ 676]

What in the nothing burger is this

[silton 4731]

I hate medics more than most but this definitely pushing it. Especially if you asked them to leave.

But I get it. Reminds me of the time you pushed a pharma during turf skirmish and was protected by Rexo

[Mighty 1532]

45 minutes ago, Wolffe said:

Here's how I view it. Told medic to leave, therefore implying you have no intent to take him hostage. So what combat would he be avoiding by redeploying?

[Big Boss Fredo 1606]

Fuck it make me senior admin already so i can perm ban all fags 

[ASPEN 199]

Very confused about what you hoped to achieve by posting this. Just a really bad look

[20 sumthing hawks 8]

If someone did this on cop they would be dragged and immediately humbled.

[ares 454]

But like how did it impact the situation at all? genuine question

[David Miller 813]

21 minutes ago, ares said:

But like how did it impact the situation at all? genuine question

My immersion!

[Mr Miscellaneous 27]

1 hour ago, silton said:

I hate medics more than most but this definitely pushing it. Especially if you asked them to leave.

But I get it. Reminds me of the time you pushed a pharma during turf skirmish and was protected by Rexo

 

1 hour ago, Millennium said:

This is just a petty ass report that you want money out of.

You told him to leave, so he left. Did he not think thoroughly and technically combat log, yes. Would I ban someone for this? Fuck no. Most I would do is a warning.

It's different if he did it to avoid you guys, but your instructions were to leave.

Also at least @ the man @ David Miller

 

2 hours ago, -dante- said:

Couple things: 

 

1. Yes he was technically engaged and by server rule definition this is combat logging 

2. What’s also true is you told the medic to leave? If you said hands up or die or anything that would directly impact you if he logged. If he left the area and then tac respawned, then I also wouldn’t punish a medic either in this situation. Maybe a “hey in the future must wait the 5 minutes to avoid being in these situations” but that’s as far as it goes. 
 

In the muthinator era which is by far the most punishing era to fuck up as a medic, that’s prob the furthest it would go. Marcus as the head of RnR is able to police his medics how he wants. If you don’t like the decision, make a report and request sr admin. That being said, by the messages between you and sheriff, it seems more like you just wanted a free 350k for something that did not impact you even 1% more than you care about the validity of rule enforcement to me. 

I disputed the medic. I was denied by empire. I died twice two separate situations. Both times the medic was told to leave or die by empire. Empire was killed quickly right after the medic denied me then redeployed almost instantly without checking the scene of the crime. Nothing was lost dopamine shots were bought. First death I respawned didn’t care or think anything of it took the 250k lost like a champ. 2nd death 20mins later I noticed he respawned again after empire killed me then we killed empire but medic redeployed within 5 minutes. I spoke with @ Marcus  for a decent amount of time. Regarding the redeploy in combat rule. Cleared up some issues and we both agreed on most things that were brought up. I didn’t encourage a forum post but it is bad mannered for me to allow orbit to take all the flak. End of the day I did seek out clarification and if you are interested in hearing more on that end. Ask Marcus or @ Mako  mako cared so deeply about another civilian possibly being mistreated and jumped into the aid. Unfortunately the waddling penguin had a way with words that distracted our beloved community member mako. 
 

“leave or die.”

medic left engagement ends due to

medic complying with the demand.

 

end of thread. 

 

[Leslie 45]

if he was black he wouldve been banned 

[Xlax 2813]

ngl this is the GAYEST shit I've seen in a while bro..... do better

[Wywyh 58]

[despair333 0]

stop crying retard

 

[MlKEY 118]

you should be more worried about activating windows

[Skys 1740]

told medic to leave and cries when medic leaves

 

[HyperGoat 935]

[Kodakk 155]

@ Caden come get your dog