APD Handbook Update 5/15/2019

[Bloodmoon 2222]

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:21 PM, MAV said:

Balance comes when situations are unbalanced, civs mass log for feds, APD needs a counter... Feds are supposed to be hard and APD sided, your reward is literally 20mil in gold for 30 mins of work.......

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Why do you assume we get 20mil every fed? Sounds like you're just trying to shill for the apd.

[Revise 314]

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:43 PM, KGB JOSH said:

Revise you are an idiot

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Duly noted beta bitch

[proud 3850]

i can see alot of ppl complaining about this, and all i can say is

@Pledge eta on us cops getting mk1 loadouts and csat lvl 4 vests?

[PUREPK TTV 449]

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:45 PM, Bloodmoon said:

Why do you assume we get 20mil every fed? Sounds like you're just trying to shill for the apd.

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TRUUUUUUUUUUUE

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:48 PM, Proud said:

i can see alot of ppl complaining about this, and all i can say is

@Pledge eta on us cops getting mk1 loadouts and csat lvl 4 vests?

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loooooooool

[Hisoka 123]

  On 5/15/2019 at 10:36 PM, Nex is on route said:

Well, looks like I'm applying for the APD, they are now broken...

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What’s broken is having to lose a fed not because one side is better than the other but moreover a deputy getting milked because he can’t don anything which is unfair.

[KrispyK 22]

  On 5/16/2019 at 5:26 AM, MAV said:

How is that exploiting a loop hole? The comparison doesn't even come close to being relevant.. c'mon now your just reaching

Not the civ rep head olympus wants, but the civ rep head olympus needs...;)

I can get on board with this, there should be criteria that limits neutralization to 'milking' ie clearly trying to just break legs without reasonably trying to kill the officer or something similar.. I get why it's worded the way it is, given it's simplicity and how rank snatch happy Olympus is right now.. but still, should limit the change to effect only how it was being abused. .

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its prolonging a wave which is needed with how much yall swarm with SAPD, the same way we block towers

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:31 PM, Panda :) said:

Yeah let’s keep the meta the same for years and once we make a slight change where you have to adapt let’s lose our mind shut your useless mouth you fucking brain dead retard.

  

And about people complaining about how this will affect smaller gangs, how do you suggest we solve this problem? By pulling armor and coordinated pushes I am assuming, but then we would be back at square 1 because what if a senior did that to a small gang inb4 you say “well you can control how much armor you pull.” Well we can also control if we use this rule or not. All of you complain so much about a handbook update until it is actually tested.

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its not a problem and you guys REPEATLY nerf ANY  plans people use that lets them start to in feds. its fucking stupid. heres your solution: dont hire monka brain dead cops and force them to use tatics that dont rely on 20 hunter push

[proud 3850]

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:49 PM, rabeed said:

just stop kid you don't even have enough time in grade

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what does time in grade have to do with a meme about cops getting mk1s with csat lvl 4 vests?

searching the data base to find me, must be a fan!!!

[MAV 1854]

You all @PURE P.K @KrispyK and @whoeverelse are missing the point.. if you mass log 30 people on a consistent basis,  APD will be buffed to balance 30 man feds... staff/apd isn't ruining feds for the little man/regular sized gangs, YOU ARE... I literally said day 1 when civ mass log started happening that if it continues, apd will be buffed... if you didn't see that coming then you're very short sided. 

Like what did you expect was going to happen? The only feds APD has won is when there were ~20 civs and a sAPD stack... so are we supposed to just accept the fact that civs win 90%+ when there is a stack of 20 civs or more?

@Bloodmoon I was rounding because of the gold buff. sure that amount will go down.. (and ofc the amount of gold spawned varies) Either way civs arn't supposed to be winning 90% of the time.

(ps. with blackfish it does not take 15 minutes to sell gold..)

[KrispyK 22]

  On 5/16/2019 at 2:03 PM, MAV said:

You all @PURE P.K @KrispyK and @whoeverelse are missing the point.. if you mass log 30 people on a consistent basis,  APD will be buffed to balance 30 man feds... staff/apd isn't ruining feds for the little man/regular sized gangs, YOU ARE... I literally said day 1 when civ mass log started happening that if it continues, apd will be buffed... if you didn't see that coming then you're very short sided. 

Like what did you expect was going to happen? The only feds APD has won is when there were ~20 civs and a sAPD stack... so are we supposed to just accept the fact that civs win 90%+ when there is a stack of 20 civs or more?

@Bloodmoon I was rounding because of the gold buff. sure that amount will go down.. (and ofc the amount of gold spawned varies) Either way civs arn't supposed to be winning 90% of the time.

(ps. with blackfish it does not take 15 minutes to sell gold..)

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aolution is to get good

[MAV 1854]

  On 5/16/2019 at 1:35 PM, KrispyK said:

its prolonging a wave which is needed with how much yall swarm with SAPD, the same way we block towers

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blocking towers is not even a close comparison to using a rule to your advantage by milking a deputy to prolong a wave.. cmon now... blocking roadways, entry points, etc with cars is a legitimate tactical strat... milking a deputy is an exploitation of the rules.. very different things.

[MAV 1854]

  On 5/16/2019 at 2:04 PM, KrispyK said:

aolution is to get good

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^^ you heard it hear first boys... no more balance needed... just "get good"

  On 5/16/2019 at 2:06 PM, rabeed said:

ETA on lnt doing a fed??

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When we have 12-15 people to do one. Used to do them all the time with 10-15 man and won maybe ~50-60% of the time... and not even the gay gate1 or dome strat either.

[SPBojo 6862]

  On 5/16/2019 at 12:21 PM, MAV said:

So you have confirmation that he discussed being unblacklisted when he met with pledge? Or are you speculating because his immediate response to an APD wasn't wasn't NO?

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I really doubt he himself would lie so yeah, according to he's own words that is the case yeah.

[MAV 1854]

  On 5/16/2019 at 2:32 PM, Bojo said:

I really doubt he himself would lie so yeah, according to he's own words that is the case yeah.

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ah gotcha, well i seriously doubt he was bartering 'apd buffs' with blacklist appeal since DP has no power to approve anything... and we all know he can't contain you guys anyhow :-P 

[Panda :) 1932]

  On 5/16/2019 at 1:35 PM, KrispyK said:

its prolonging a wave which is needed with how much yall swarm with SAPD, the same way we block towers

its not a problem and you guys REPEATLY nerf ANY  plans people use that lets them start to in feds. its fucking stupid. heres your solution: dont hire monka brain dead cops and force them to use tatics that dont rely on 20 hunter push

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I wouldn’t say we repeatedly nerf any strat we have let cigs have their fun with this one for far too long. Name strats that they are using we “repeatedly nerf.” Because I honestly can’t think of any off the top of my head.

And for you said we shouldn’t let retards be cop then the apd would be slim because people like you wouldn’t be allowed to be a cop.

[KrispyK 22]

  On 5/16/2019 at 2:52 PM, Panda :) said:

I wouldn’t say we repeatedly nerf any strat we have let cigs have their fun with this one for far too long. Name strats that they are using we “repeatedly nerf.” Because I honestly can’t think of any off the top of my head.

And for you said we shouldn’t let retards be cop then the apd would be slim because people like you wouldn’t be allowed to be a cop.

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black fish

taze

medic

[Evann 578]

I mean I can see where this is making it so more cop waves can come in, just making it so there isn’t 3 waves per fed and there is an actual chance. Ig it’s sorta ok but running circles around legged deputies was fun:(

[Panda :) 1932]

  On 5/16/2019 at 2:54 PM, KrispyK said:

black fish

taze

medic

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1. What counter do we have to the blackfish it’s still used today. next.

2. Elaborate?

3. Medics still used not a real counter and if I’m not mistaken @Mercury backed the update for medics not getting paid at feds.

anymore because these are terrible?

[KrispyK 22]

  On 5/16/2019 at 3:52 PM, Panda :) said:

1. What counter do we have to the blackfish it’s still used today. next.

2. Elaborate?

3. Medics still used not a real counter and if I’m not mistaken @Mercury backed the update for medics not getting paid at feds.

anymore because these are terrible?

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blackfish price was raised to 3 mill.

counter to black fish, not letting them get to loading and winning

not allowed to taze/restrain cops at fed which was useful with mass log

 

[Bloodmoon 2222]

  On 5/16/2019 at 3:52 PM, Panda :) said:

1. What counter do we have to the blackfish it’s still used today. next.

2. Elaborate?

3. Medics still used not a real counter and if I’m not mistaken @Mercury backed the update for medics not getting paid at feds.

anymore because these are terrible?

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1. Ghost hawk, armed plane, or Corp+ shooting pilot out. Not to mention every fed and bw we have roaches

3. Medics are absolute aids to deal with during a fed and bw, often they will not listen or run out to cops for a lethal because they aren't getting paid

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:12 PM, KrispyK said:

blackfish price was raised to 3 mill.

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Wrong

[KrispyK 22]

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:13 PM, Bloodmoon said:

1. Ghost hawk, armed plane, or Corp+ shooting pilot out. Not to mention every fed and bw we have roaches

3. Medics are absolute aids to deal with during a fed and bw, often they will not listen or run out to cops for a lethal because they aren't getting paid

Wrong

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i remember reading it was unless the change was reverted

[MAV 1854]

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:13 PM, Bloodmoon said:

1. Ghost hawk, armed plane, or Corp+ shooting pilot out. Not to mention every fed and bw we have roaches

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ghosthawk / armed plane is a legit APD play, but with multiple titans in play, they hardly get enough shots off before getting ripped outta the sky to make it relevant

[SPBojo 6862]

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:20 PM, MAV said:

ghosthawk / armed plane is a legit APD play, but with multiple titans in play, they hardly get enough shots off before getting ripped outta the sky to make it relevant

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Just buy a titan 

[Bloodmoon 2222]

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:20 PM, MAV said:

ghosthawk / armed plane is a legit APD play, but with multiple titans in play, they hardly get enough shots off before getting ripped outta the sky to make it relevant

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It only takes 200 ghost hawk bullets to blow up a blackfish, if the hawk pilot was competent there should be no issue taking it down on the ground or as it's lifting off

[Panda :) 1932]

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:12 PM, KrispyK said:

blackfish price was raised to 3 mill.

counter to black fish, not letting them get to loading and winning

not allowed to taze/restrain cops at fed which was useful with mass log

 

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Not raised to 3 mil DECREASED from 6 mil to 750k 

cant really tell what you are talking about but I assume you mean land at feds? They can still land there perfectly fine. 

You telling me it should be allowed to taze and restrain a whole wave for 15 minutes you are cooked retard. I’m sure even the DB boys can agree that was fair for them to make it where you can’t taze and restrain cops at feds.

next time you try to talk shit be educated on the topic and don’t talk about something that happened over 6 months ago.

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:13 PM, Bloodmoon said:

1. Ghost hawk, armed plane, or Corp+ shooting pilot out. Not to mention every fed and bw we have roaches

3. Medics are absolute aids to deal with during a fed and bw, often they will not listen or run out to cops for a lethal because they aren't getting paid

Wrong

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1. We both know when a blackfish is in the air and switches on the boosters there is no catching it lmao its fair to say we can shoot them out but I would say sgt+ because with Corp guns you can shoot through but extremely inaccurate and does a very low amount of damage.

3. Yeah they are pretty aids to deal with can agree but if they run out on you after you giving them a command not to that is not valuing their life and you can report.

[Bloodmoon 2222]

  On 5/16/2019 at 4:46 PM, Panda :) said:

Not raised to 3 mil DECREASED from 6 mil to 750k 

cant really tell what you are talking about but I assume you mean land at feds? They can still land there perfectly fine. 

You telling me it should be allowed to taze and restrain a whole wave for 15 minutes you are cooked retard. I’m sure even the DB boys can agree that was fair for them to make it where you can’t taze and restrain cops at feds.

next time you try to talk shit be educated on the topic and don’t talk about something that happened over 6 months ago.

1. We both know when a blackfish is in the air and switches on the boosters there is no catching it lmao its fair to say we can shoot them out but I would say sgt+ because with Corp guns you can shoot through but extremely inaccurate and does a very low amount of damage..

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When bomb blows and you see a fish landing, that means pull a hawk and just do flybys on the fish, you'll be able to flare rockets pretty easily and it only takes 200 bullets from a hawk to blow it up