no

[ThatNerdyGuy 5921]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:35 PM, Noble said:

SAPD has repeatedly not logged and even told deps and PO's to not log on when we are setting up. Im sure you can ask people like @Mason Harrison who organize these things just how many times we cant do something because not enough. EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO A SUCSESSFUL BW OR FED, THEY WILL ALL LOG OFF. again the disconnect between SAPD/STAFF and player is absurd 

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Show me proof of Senior APD telling people to log off and I will handle that. If people log off when there's a mass amount of people logging, maybe they can't stay on for the whole event. I've experienced that myself when it comes to logging off. The events take a long time so I think expecting massive amounts of people to stay on for 3 or 4 hours consistently is not intelligent. 

 

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:37 PM, Noble said:

Chief is a admin. Multiple SAPD is an admin or part of staff team. If they REALLY want something to happen it will happen. Take banks for example there was a time when Noble was doing banks 24/7 and what did they do? log off and push an update to nerf it

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Maybe you shouldn't take 15 people to a bank. That's not the event for a group that large.

Sorry that I applied for staff when the server needed it most. I could just quit as well as the rest of the Senior APD staff and then you'd complain your tickets aren't done.

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:36 PM, eknjack said:

yo it would be amazing if you could like stop making votes around the casino

no ones fault you lost money except your own 

surely if you started with 210m and kept losing over and over you would have figured out eventually, right? lol

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this man understands how gambling works!

[eknjack 395]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:39 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Maybe you shouldn't take 15 people to a bank. That's not the event for a group that large.

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is it even possible to profit if your doing 15 man banks? lmao
Also, noble need all the monkeys they can get, we know how hard it can be for them to defend against stings.

[Noble 1898]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:39 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Maybe you shouldn't take 15 people to a bank. That's not the event for a group that large.

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90% of our banks were with 5 people. ask around all you would like 2-4 hr events? in what world are you living 

you guys added the 3man 5.56 rule for banks BECAUSE we did them with less then 3 people THEN you put a 15m timer on them! 

[johnny goose 3338]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:41 PM, eknjack said:

is it even possible to profit if your doing 15 man banks? lmao

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3m / 15

Cool 200k per person

[Scribble 664]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:01 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Time to start getting out the trucks and start picking moonshine.

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you can pick moonshine? saves the trouble of gathering ingredients i guess

[eknjack 395]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:47 PM, Strafe said:

3m / 15

Cool 200k per person

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not even enough to comp your kit if you lose it lmfao

[ThatNerdyGuy 5921]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:41 PM, eknjack said:

is it even possible to profit if your doing 15 man banks? lmao
Also, noble need all the monkeys they can get, we know how hard it can be for them to defend against stings.

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They aren't profiting off of it, at that rate it's solely to build a bounty.

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:41 PM, Noble said:

90% of our banks were with 5 people. ask around all you would like 2-4 hr events? in what world are you living 

you guys added the 3man 5.56 rule for banks BECAUSE we did them with less then 3 people THEN you put a 15m timer on them! 

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So you thought it was okay for the bank to have a win percentage of 80%? That's not balanced and a massive issue for the economy. Those changes were agreed upon by your civilian council. So if that's an issue, then maybe you should voice your concerns with them. There was also a Noble member that found out about the proposed changes before the staff meeting and continued to plant fake banks to drive the blow rate down.

As in terms of federal events, you're implying that people log off after them. If it's a successful civilian win with a decent chase afterwards they can go upwards of an hour. Expecting the cops to stay on for another 30 minutes or so for you to re-gear and start another is unrealistic.

[Noble 1898]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:41 PM, Noble said:

90% of our banks were with 5 people. ask around all you would like 2-4 hr events? in what world are you living 

you guys added the 3man 5.56 rule for banks BECAUSE we did them with less then 3 people THEN you put a 15m timer on them! 

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@eknjack @Strafe

[Bloodmoon 2222]

Man, noble really is the most retarded gang there is now.

[Noble 1898]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:49 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

They aren't profiting off of it, at that rate it's solely to build a bounty.

So you thought it was okay for the bank to have a win percentage of 80%? That's not balanced and a massive issue for the economy. Those changes were agreed upon by your civilian council. So if that's an issue, then maybe you should voice your concerns with them. There was also a Noble member that found out about the proposed changes before the staff meeting and continued to plant fake banks to drive the blow rate down.

As in terms of federal events, you're implying that people log off after them. If it's a successful civilian win with a decent chase afterwards they can go upwards of an hour. Expecting the cops to stay on for another 30 minutes or so for you to re-gear and start another is unrealistic.

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Then by this logic its unrealistic to us to do a fed/bw every time we have numbers on? 

He planted those charges because you guys deiced to not show up or log off. I personally make 12m from ghost banks Just show up 4head 

[ThatNerdyGuy 5921]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:52 PM, Noble said:

Then by this logic its unrealistic to us to do a fed/bw every time we have numbers on?

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That makes no sense. So you won't do one federal event because you can't run them back to back?

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:52 PM, Noble said:

He planted those charges because you guys deiced to not show up or log off. I personally make 12m from ghost banks Just show up 4head

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If you really want to make the bank to be unwinnable, all you have to do is make it mandatory for cops to show up. 

[Blueangelman36 254]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:21 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

I think it's a great thing for the server. Do you really think it's fun to play a server with 80 people when they are doing absolutely nothing? Noble is one of the biggest gangs on the server. There can be 20 of you on and you still won't attempt a federal event. The BW is broken and that still isn't done by your gang. You can't get better at something if all you do it nothing.

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We won't do a federal event because there aren't any APD on, an when we try to do them 8 sAPD kids get on civ and make it so we can't. We also did a shitload of banks, and look what got nerfed into the ground.

 

Also if anyone here thinks that players who have been around for awhile are going to loose their money in a casino and happily go do runs after, 95% certain you're wrong about that. The number of people who *haven't* commented on here about quitting is unreal, and like Noble said its the people who have been here for awhile.

Is it good to fix the economy? Sure. Is it bad to do it at the detrement to the player base that keeps the server alive? Yup. Arma is a dying game, and we've run out of food and are starting to cannibalize those that are left. Eventually, we will all be gone. 

[Poon 197]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:49 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

continued to plant fake banks to drive the blow rate down.

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I think the term your looking for is "ghosting a bank" not trying to drop success rates. Where you plant the bomb then run off and hide, once bomb is blown then you swoop in and take the bags. Considering in my experience cops dont show up a lot of the time, so its almost completely risk free money and arguably a smart thing to do.

[Matt12321 65]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:21 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

I think it's a great thing for the server. Do you really think it's fun to play a server with 80 people when they are doing absolutely nothing? Noble is one of the biggest gangs on the server. There can be 20 of you on and you still won't attempt a federal event. The BW is broken and that still isn't done by your gang. You can't get better at something if all you do it nothing.

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yeah noble just bad man... u hate to see all 30 of them robbing instead of doing a BW

[Noble 1898]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:55 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

That makes no sense. So you won't do one federal event because you can't run them back to back?

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:52 PM, Noble said:

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a few things 1. You cant expect every single person in such a large gang to want to do it. 2.  no, we would  do one and everyone would log for the rest of the day. You dont see  cops on now unless its a 12man SAPD stack

[Blueangelman36 254]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:49 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

They aren't profiting off of it, at that rate it's solely to build a bounty.

So you thought it was okay for the bank to have a win percentage of 80%? That's not balanced and a massive issue for the economy. Those changes were agreed upon by your civilian council. So if that's an issue, then maybe you should voice your concerns with them. There was also a Noble member that found out about the proposed changes before the staff meeting and continued to plant fake banks to drive the blow rate down.

As in terms of federal events, you're implying that people log off after them. If it's a successful civilian win with a decent chase afterwards they can go upwards of an hour. Expecting the cops to stay on for another 30 minutes or so for you to re-gear and start another is unrealistic.

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Also Nerdy 100% bullshit that that member continued to plant charges to reduce the win rate. Many of us did it because it was easy, raised bounties, pissed off APD, not to alter the win rate. 

Edited August 14, 2020 by Blueangelman36

[johnny goose 3338]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:49 PM, Noble said:

@eknjack @Strafe

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okay if you want to start shit lets go retard.

ANY bot can solo a bank when no cops show up lmao. What is it 3 cops for bank? if you have 3 po's on all you need is like 4 people with mk 1s and its a easy bank.

Please do something else besides flexing the fact that they balanced bank because you guys abused it.

[ThatNerdyGuy 5921]

  On 8/14/2020 at 3:00 PM, Blueangelman36 said:

Also Nerdy 100% bullshit that that member continued to plant charges to reduce the win rate. Many of us did it because it was easy, raised bounties, pissed off APD, not to alter the win rate. 

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Then effectively, you're responsible for the bank getting nerfed.

 

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:59 PM, Noble said:

 

a few things 1. You cant expect every single person in such a large gang to want to do it. 2.  no, we would  do one and everyone would log for the rest of the day. You dont see  cops on now unless its a 12man SAPD stack

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I get the getting everyone to do the same thing. But I've been in large gangs during the peak of Olympus, federal events are the end game.

I cannot remember the last time I saw 12 seniors in a channel let alone on cop together.

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:58 PM, Poon said:

I think the term your looking for is "ghosting a bank" not trying to drop success rates. Where you plant the bomb then run off and hide, once bomb is blown then you swoop in and take the bags. Considering in my experience cops dont show up a lot of the time, so its almost completely risk free money and arguably a smart thing to do.

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And again not good for the economy. Thats why changes were made.

[DubbedSoap 80]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:49 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

There was also a Noble member that found out about the proposed changes before the staff meeting and continued to plant fake banks to drive the blow rate down.

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  On 8/14/2020 at 3:00 PM, Blueangelman36 said:

Also Nerdy 100% bullshit that that member continued to plant charges to reduce the win rate. Many of us did it because it was easy, raised bounties, pissed off APD, not to alter the win rate.

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LOL, Soapgate

 

If anybody thinks I planted charges to alter stats they are wrong. I did it because APD only responds to a 1 or 2 man bank 45% of the time. Why 45%? I counted. Made civ council recommendations. Was told I'm retarded. I've been proposing bank nerfs since day 1 and ignored. So I printed money with muh bois.

[Matt12321 65]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:39 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Maybe you shouldn't take 15 people to a bank. That's not the event for a group that large.

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you cant say that banks aren't meant for a group that large at banks, but if you go to a fed or BW you will get pounded with only 15 people because of the sheer number of lethals mass logging on for those events

[Billeh 806]

Finally a user with an appropriate pfp, this nigga strait clownin

[johnny goose 3338]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:57 PM, Blueangelman36 said:

Also if anyone here thinks that players who have been around for awhile are going to loose their money in a casino and happily go do runs after, 95% certain you're wrong about that.

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Its their choice to go broke at a virtual casino. Its their choice to be to lazy to do runs. Its their problems not the staffs

@Noahhh! get your apes their clowning your gang rn

[ThatNerdyGuy 5921]

  On 8/14/2020 at 3:06 PM, Matt12321 said:

you cant say that banks aren't meant for a group that large at banks, but if you go to a fed or BW you will get pounded with only 15 people because of the sheer number of lethals mass logging on for those events

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Lol, I've been to BW's on civ and cop the last two weeks. The cops have been maybe 10 deep. We had 20 in a civ channel and haven't lost.

Banks were not added for 10 or more people to do.

  On 8/14/2020 at 3:06 PM, DubbedSoap said:

 

 

LOL, Soapgate

 

If anybody thinks I planted charges to alter stats they are wrong. I did it because APD only responds to a 1 or 2 man bank 45% of the time. Why 45%? I counted. Made civ council recommendations. Was told I'm retarded. I've been proposing bank nerfs since day 1 and ignored. So I printed money with muh bois.

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well, good on you for opening all our eyes that it was broken.

[Matt12321 65]

  On 8/14/2020 at 3:06 PM, Billeh said:

Finally a user with an appropriate pfp, this nigga strait clownin

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don't u have 22 houses to camp? get on retard

[Noahhh! 3618]

  On 8/14/2020 at 2:25 PM, Noble said:

Nothing like a staff member coming for a gang. Maybe if you and your zzz SAPD wouldn't REFUSE to log on when we are trying to do them this wouldn't be an issue Mr.Dep Chief v22 Noble members have been attending almost every single fed/BW that has happened in the last 6 months. Im sure you and your 1mGhawks remember my titans :^)

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Nerdy is one of the SAPD that I've never caught camping the shed though ngl.