Admin Winters 1950 Posted July 26, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Chapter V - Processing Suspects If the Jail doors are broken and a suspect is being processed, then an APD Officer must go to the Jail to make the proper repairs so they can send the suspect to Jail. The APD Officer must go directly to the Jail to make the repairs, and may not stray off to do other things. The 15-minute APD Processing rule does not start until the repair is done. Chapter VI - Dealing with Vehicles Officers may only enter/unlock a civilian vehicle when: Turning off the engine. Removing a dead body Unblocking a road, pathway or an area officers are attempting to access. The owner gives consent (and the vehicle is non-illegal) APD Officers may commandeer civilian vehicles (if the vehicle is non-illegal) to transport a suspect straight back to an APD HQ, if the owner of the vehicle is in APD custody, and there are no APD vehicles available to utilize as transport. Chapter X - Illegal Areas Illegal Areas may be patrolled every 20 15 minutes. During situations inside of illegal areas, officers must respond in waves. Exception: An active Bank if 5 or less APD Officers are responding to the Bank. Chapter XI - Blue Zones Blue Zones APD Officers may freely patrol Blue Zones. The APD Escort Event, Art Gallery & Pharmaceutical Robbery are Blue Zones. APD Officers responding to an active Art Gallery Robbery or a Pharmaceutical Robbery must respond code 3 or dark with the intent to verbally engage. APD Officers do not have to respond in waves to an active situation in a Blue Zone. Exception: If there are 6 or more APD Officers responding to the initial Pharmaceutical Robbery Blue Zone they must respond in waves until the Pharmaceutical vehicle leaves the initial Pharmaceutical Robbery Blue Zone. Chapter XIX - APD Aircraft Fixed Wing Patrol Armed Plane Patrol - The Armed Plane patrols are conducted by Sergeants or higher. These patrols can be used for both recon and rapid response. Armed planes will follow Ghosthawk engagement rules. Exception: Armed Planes can also engage ground vehicles if the vehicle is illegal, is a HVT, or contains a HVT. @Deputy Chief of Police, @Senior APD Member, @APD Member & @Support Team 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Millennium 5771 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, Winters said: Exception: If there are 5 or less APD Officers responding to the initial Pharmaceutical Robbery Blue Zone they must respond in waves until the Pharmaceutical vehicle leaves the initial Pharmaceutical Robbery Blue Zone. what fucking logic does this make.... 5 or less they have to wave, but if there are more then 5 they don't have to wave? Unless you just messed up. 45 minutes ago, Winters said: APD Officers may commandeer civilian vehicles (if the vehicle is non-illegal) to transport a suspect straight back to an APD HQ, if the owner of the vehicle is in APD custody, and there are no APD vehicles available to utilize as transport. A bit retarded seeing as the APD have a literal Windows key option to get keys, which IMO would be abusing the power since that is not the intended use of the ability. Should only be a thing if the vehicle is unlocked. Also should probably address the fact that there is no rule against using it when you are going to seize the stuff inside, search it, seize the vehicle, etc. 6 Quote Link to comment
Mr GOAT 2081 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 civ sided admin commenting zzz 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Millennium 5771 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr GOAT said: civ sided admin commenting zzz retarded retired guy talking zzzzzzzz 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment
SPBojo 6863 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rafa said: The rule is that we would have to respond in waves. The exception to that would be if 5 or less cops online. That’s how it’s written "APD Officers do not have to respond in waves to an active situation in a Blue Zone." ? at least THAT'S how its written 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment
Millennium 5771 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 @ Rafa If there are 5 or less APD Officers responding to the initial Pharmaceutical Robbery Blue Zone they must respond in waves Clearly its worded incorrectly unless you want to severely weaken the APD forces when they have 5 or less cops. 2 Quote Link to comment
Conqueeftador 259 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, Millennium said: ...unless you want to severely weaken the APD forces when they have 5 or less cops. I think that its fucking stupid how nerfed APD is becoming. The new guidelines for APD released basically talking about engagement etc are stupid. Literally the department has turned into something that all the staff and exec staff have RUINED and now it gets taken out on their warriors. APD is a prime example of "too many chieftains, not enough warriors" People making decisions who dont even play. Its fucking stupid. Like, as APD we are told we have to "play nice" when we do stuff? We cant lethal in events, we cant all go to events, etc. We are told we cant do our jobs to make the civ/cop ratio even. Like who the FUCK CARES. If you want it to be even then maybe the CIVS should plan to bring more people? It isnt our problem they brought 5 people to a fed and now we have to only allow about 5-6 because of that. Maybe this is why SWAT and all the other aspects of APD are failing, because SAPD is focused on ALL the wrong shit. Get this department together. Even your own staff IE Millennium are saying that its retarded. I'm not one to make posts like this, but oh my god the APD is a joke. Our leadership is horrible. 12 Quote Link to comment
Rafa 2829 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, SPBojo said: "APD Officers do not have to respond in waves to an active situation in a Blue Zone." ? at least THAT'S how its written How it’s supposed to be written* Deleted my original post, typo was fixed @ Millennium 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Skys 1627 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr GOAT said: civ sided admin commenting zzz Quote Link to comment
Admin Mighty 1401 Posted July 27, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr GOAT said: civ sided admin commenting zzz What happened to your opinion about admins should be focused on the balance of all factions? He brings up a good point. 1 Quote Link to comment
ThatNerdyGuy 5914 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Big confused on needing wave with less than 5 but not with more than 5. Quote Link to comment
Rafa 2829 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, ThatNerdyGuy said: Big confused on needing wave with less than 5 but not with more than 5. It was a typo that’s since been corrected. Quote Link to comment
ThatNerdyGuy 5914 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rafa said: It was a typo that’s since been corrected. Somehow this is @ Headless ‘s fault Quote Link to comment
Tobubas 72 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Millennium said: what fucking logic does this make.... 5 or less they have to wave, but if there are more then 5 they don't have to wave? Unless you just messed up. A bit retarded seeing as the APD have a literal Windows key option to get keys, which IMO would be abusing the power since that is not the intended use of the ability. Should only be a thing if the vehicle is unlocked. Also should probably address the fact that there is no rule against using it when you are going to seize the stuff inside, search it, seize the vehicle, etc. Millenium isn't cop sided??? Edited July 27, 2022 by Tobubas Quote Link to comment
Mr GOAT 2081 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, Mighty said: What happened to your opinion about admins should be focused on the balance of all factions? He brings up a good point. He thinks a cop gaining access to a civilian vehicle is broken (when no other option is available), but a blackfish flying away the BW vehicle isn't. When that stance changes, along with many other heavily anti-apd stances, I'll give credence to your idea of the clown giving a genuine fuck about balance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Orbit 295 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr GOAT said: He thinks a cop gaining access to a civilian vehicle is broken (when no other option is available), but a blackfish flying away the BW vehicle isn't. "WAHH WAHH THE BLACKFISH" goat you forget that the blackfish is not the only thing civs use right?? Quote Link to comment
johnny goose 3329 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 im just saying when we had a new chief every 3mo's-1yr balancing issues were fixed relatively fast & it kept the apd from being stagnant. I swear winters is just holding onto that chief position because outside of chief he does quite literally nothing from my experience. Same with SAPD to a somewhat lesser extent, we would cycle thru sapd and chiefs like clockwork. I know player counts have significantly dropped since then but theres still no logical reason that someone should hold chief for so long. 7 Quote Link to comment
Orbit 295 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Strafe said: im just saying when we had a new chief every 3mo's-1yr balancing issues were fixed relatively fast & it kept the apd from being stagnant. I swear winters is just holding onto that chief position because outside of chief he does quite literally nothing from my experience. Same with SAPD to a somewhat lesser extent, we would cycle thru sapd and chiefs like clockwork. I know player counts have significantly dropped since then but theres still no logical reason that someone should hold chief for so long. Winters has been chief longer then a year but hm. Quote Link to comment
Mr GOAT 2081 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 52 minutes ago, Orbit said: "WAHH WAHH THE BLACKFISH" goat you forget that the blackfish is not the only thing civs use right?? To claim the BW vehicle? Idk about that one chief, it's a particularly popular strat Quote Link to comment
monster 5665 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mr GOAT said: To claim the BW vehicle? Idk about that one chief, it's a particularly popular strat popular yet recently it has only been utilized by 2 individuals, and no where near 100% of the time. Quote Link to comment
Millennium 5771 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Mr GOAT said: He thinks a cop gaining access to a civilian vehicle is broken (when no other option is available), but a blackfish flying away the BW vehicle isn't. When that stance changes, along with many other heavily anti-apd stances, I'll give credence to your idea of the clown giving a genuine fuck about balance. Incorrect. I have not stated any issue against civilians losing the ability to fly the BW vehicle away in blackfishes. You just assumed that. Quote Link to comment
Civak 1731 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 12 hours ago, monster said: popular yet recently it has only been utilized by 2 individuals, and no where near 100% of the time. crazy how in DB fed season a blackfish was used at almost every event and still nobody was bitching as much as @ Mr GOAT is now i thought it would be a good idea to have staff bring him back as chief when everyone was getting coup'ed.. in part he did his job and unified sAPD, but he also was fucking retarded and tried to buff cops every chance he got- no regard for balance whatsoever but yet here he is saying the same shit about @ Millennium 4 Quote Link to comment
Millennium 5771 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Civak said: crazy how in DB fed season a blackfish was used at almost every event and still nobody was bitching as much as @ Mr GOAT is now i thought it would be a good idea to have staff bring him back as chief when everyone was getting coup'ed.. in part he did his job and unified sAPD, but he also was fucking retarded and tried to buff cops every chance he got- no regard for balance whatsoever but yet here he is saying the same shit about @ Millennium Don't forget.... he was an admin at the same time..... So what happened to the staff team trying to create balance? 1 Quote Link to comment
Civak 1731 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Millennium said: Don't forget.... he was an admin at the same time..... So what happened to the staff team trying to create balance? his chief position was also supposed to be contingent on him resigning from admin big shocker how that one never happened 1 1 Quote Link to comment
monster 5665 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, Civak said: crazy how in DB fed season a blackfish was used at almost every event and still nobody was bitching as much as @ Mr GOAT is now He seems to find something new to complain about everyday, both an interesting and sad skill to have. 1 Quote Link to comment
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