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Remove admin unlimited money !


Farrel

Remove admin unlimited money !  

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As much as I agree with you @ Farrel I really don't think it will do much at this point because they have not had to spend staff points for years, so all of them have been collecting points without really needing to use them as @ Noble said.

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11 hours ago, Farrel said:

abused and not needed. Should be only sr admin + and lead dev.

lol if you don't think snr+ and devs don't abuse then you havn't played olympus long enough

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51 minutes ago, Frato said:

bro legit pulled a tank out to a fed like what

nah that was @ Grandma Gary  lmao

 

56 minutes ago, Owner of a Teeny Weenie said:

honestly y’all had me convinced mako abused his shit but when i actually joined aegis and got rank one i asked “Lord mako where is my cyrus” he replied shut up dog  nah but for real playing with mako i realized he doesn’t abuse his shit anymore then the next we were doing a black water and he gave the cops ifrits so they wouldn’t just get smoked

i hope ur right ab this no way hes still abusing after all the posts back then

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50 minutes ago, ThatNerdyGuy said:

https://olympus-entertainment.com/support/

If an admin is overdoing it submit a report on them under player reports. That's how you can get action taken.

Or it could just be dealt with at the root? Shouldn’t have to report for it when it can just be changed by removing infinite staff money. Works phenomenally on other servers where staff get little to no in game money perks, staff are only staff to help out with the community- not to reply to a ticket with a pre written response for a free 150k or whatever it is i can’t remember

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I love this community. I’ve been part of it for years.

We get staff points and unlimited money. Those have been the same perks for years. While I’m not going anywhere anytime soon, being staff can get stale. 
 

It’s not easy at times having deal with the things we deal with in the backend which the community as a whole doesn’t know about. 
 

Believe it or not being staff can be stressful at times. Start removing perks and we could start loosing staff. 
 

I’ve amounted about 150 mill on my time here and have only used my money as well. I don’t care about my money even though I fund some staff events with it. But when you have staff members that do this for free on their own free time when they could be doing something else or staffing a GTA server etc, you have to find ways to keep them happy and incentivize accordingly.  
 

As Nerdy said. If you know of a staff member abusing their powers you can always report it. This is just my 2 cents. Hope you understand that we are not here to abuse our positions but we are damn well allowed to have some fun as well. 

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36 minutes ago, Bubbaloo Burrito said:

I love this community. I’ve been part of it for years.

We get staff points and unlimited money. Those have been the same perks for years. While I’m not going anywhere anytime soon, being staff can get stale. 
 

It’s not easy at times having deal with the things we deal with in the backend which the community as a whole doesn’t know about. 
 

Believe it or not being staff can be stressful at times. Start removing perks and we could start loosing staff. 
 

I’ve amounted about 150 mill on my time here and have only used my money as well. I don’t care about my money even though I fund some staff events with it. But when you have staff members that do this for free on their own free time when they could be doing something else or staffing a GTA server etc, you have to find ways to keep them happy and incentivize accordingly.  
 

As Nerdy said. If you know of a staff member abusing their powers you can always report it. This is just my 2 cents. Hope you understand that we are not here to abuse our positions but we are damn well allowed to have some fun as well. 

i hope we do lose staff. Man up bubbaloo burrito 

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7 hours ago, Doc said:

Damn really devaluing our poor sr devs out here

Fake lead dev.

 

NGL wouldn't mind if I lost my infinite money. Don't really abuse it like others may do... but I could live without infinite money.

6 hours ago, Excision said:

fuck a server wipe we need a staff points wipe.

I refuse to use my staff points for anything besides donation ranks or Olympus + (oh and t4 vigi on my alt). 

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should've always been like that, but at this point it's irrelevant with how easy money is to get now, on top of them having staff points

8 hours ago, Connor S said:

Honestly, after much thought and reading these replies I don think this is a solution. I actually just got into this conversation earlier with someone.

 

The problem isnt that staff have too much money and they just wipe everyone (because truthfully that isnt it) it is that they dont know when to stop.

They dont understand the line. Sure, being an administrator is something Olympus preaches "anyone" can work for but that also isnt the case. Different day tho....

A perk of being an admin is unlimited money. I think it is what it is. There does have to be incentive to things just how there is lots of incentive to Sr faction positions. Everything has some form of incentive. However, I think that with incentives should come restrictions. Lets look at @ Mako as a prime example. Go and look at HIS gang he created. I linked it for easy access. This gang is FILLED with countless staff members (both administrative and non administrative) which is truly what the problem is. In my eyes, the solution to this problem of never ending money with OP kits is not restricting their unlimited money but more-so their game mechanics. There is absolutely 0 reason that there needs to be a gang with this many staff members. That gang wins everything and dominates the server and lets face it- its because they have the money to buy whatever they want. I think there needs to be some form of restriction on how many staff can be in a gang or some sort of accountability with that many of them. I dont understand how Mako can own and operate his own gang where all of the higher people are staff? It literally is a breeding ground for a specific friend group of the server. 

 

Also if you havent noticed, there is a certain group of people in this server who always play together and have some weird thing going on and a lot of it is in that gang. There is 0 reason that there should be that many high ranks in that gang. Remember earlier when I said "Olympus preaches "anyone" can work for ranks" that is false. If you do not know at least 3+ of the people in this gang and play with them on a daily basis, you will go nowhere in this server. So unfortunately @ Farrel you dont get a say anymore in what happens this wont change. Its because you arent a part of their little circle jerk they got going.

 

Restrict what staff can do if they do have the incentive to spawn unlimited money, or HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. @ Mako you are literally supposed to be a leader and holding these people accountable but somehow you always become the center of attention when stuff like this comes up? All of the other admins too, like what are yall doing? When topics like this get created its just a battle of why you deserve the unlimited money but not "oh let me not forget where I came from and maybe lets try to find a middle ground" Did anyone else notice that? With what @ Stray :) said about Mako using his personal money, okay that is understandable but if that is true how are regular users supposed to actually trust that. He supposedly has been "using his own money" for god knows how long? When does he actually run out of "his own money" like I am just having a hard time understanding. If it actually has been his money all along, then so be it maybe he doesnt need restrictions? MAYBE a solution is that if staff want the ability to have game mechanics not limited they choose to not have unlimited money? Or if they want the money they get limitations? 1 being they cannot be X rank in a gang or something. Or that there can only be X staff members in a gang.

 

There should be some sort of middle ground the community can agree on.

Edit: To add on to what I said, the reason I dont think unlimited money is the issue is because they have lots of staff points as noble said to get more money. So honestly, that is not the solution here I think we can all agree. There needs to be other ideas brought up besides removing unlimted money.

no thats retarded

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There's a rare number of staff that got admin and didn't immediately stop playing in-game or drastically lower their play time .

When everything is easy, the game gets stale like most admins are admitting now.

The only reason I kept playing as a staff member is because each month I received my staff payout - I lost it not even an hour after to the casino. Admins, try gambling! You will love Arma again!

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8 hours ago, Stray 🙂 said:

Funny you say that as to my knowledge he's one of if not the only staff member who still only uses all of his assets/money he had prior to being able to spawn money

I don't think this is even possible. Hasn't he had access to spawning money for like 4 years? Also, he very much did abuse a lot back in the day, and I'm not the only one saying it.

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18 hours ago, Connor S said:

Honestly, after much thought and reading these replies I don think this is a solution. I actually just got into this conversation earlier with someone.

 

The problem isnt that staff have too much money and they just wipe everyone (because truthfully that isnt it) it is that they dont know when to stop.

They dont understand the line. Sure, being an administrator is something Olympus preaches "anyone" can work for but that also isnt the case. Different day tho....

A perk of being an admin is unlimited money. I think it is what it is. There does have to be incentive to things just how there is lots of incentive to Sr faction positions. Everything has some form of incentive. However, I think that with incentives should come restrictions. Lets look at @ Mako as a prime example. Go and look at HIS gang he created. I linked it for easy access. This gang is FILLED with countless staff members (both administrative and non administrative) which is truly what the problem is. In my eyes, the solution to this problem of never ending money with OP kits is not restricting their unlimited money but more-so their game mechanics. There is absolutely 0 reason that there needs to be a gang with this many staff members. That gang wins everything and dominates the server and lets face it- its because they have the money to buy whatever they want. I think there needs to be some form of restriction on how many staff can be in a gang or some sort of accountability with that many of them. I dont understand how Mako can own and operate his own gang where all of the higher people are staff? It literally is a breeding ground for a specific friend group of the server. 

 

Also if you havent noticed, there is a certain group of people in this server who always play together and have some weird thing going on and a lot of it is in that gang. There is 0 reason that there should be that many high ranks in that gang. Remember earlier when I said "Olympus preaches "anyone" can work for ranks" that is false. If you do not know at least 3+ of the people in this gang and play with them on a daily basis, you will go nowhere in this server. So unfortunately @ Farrel you dont get a say anymore in what happens this wont change. Its because you arent a part of their little circle jerk they got going.

 

Restrict what staff can do if they do have the incentive to spawn unlimited money, or HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. @ Mako you are literally supposed to be a leader and holding these people accountable but somehow you always become the center of attention when stuff like this comes up? All of the other admins too, like what are yall doing? When topics like this get created its just a battle of why you deserve the unlimited money but not "oh let me not forget where I came from and maybe lets try to find a middle ground" Did anyone else notice that? With what @ Stray :) said about Mako using his personal money, okay that is understandable but if that is true how are regular users supposed to actually trust that. He supposedly has been "using his own money" for god knows how long? When does he actually run out of "his own money" like I am just having a hard time understanding. If it actually has been his money all along, then so be it maybe he doesnt need restrictions? MAYBE a solution is that if staff want the ability to have game mechanics not limited they choose to not have unlimited money? Or if they want the money they get limitations? 1 being they cannot be X rank in a gang or something. Or that there can only be X staff members in a gang.

 

There should be some sort of middle ground the community can agree on.

Edit: To add on to what I said, the reason I dont think unlimited money is the issue is because they have lots of staff points as noble said to get more money. So honestly, that is not the solution here I think we can all agree. There needs to be other ideas brought up besides removing unlimted money.

They are the only gang that can log in 10+ people and even when they do half the people aren't even in the gang. I wouldn't say they dominate everything. Most of them, that are not even staff, are old players with a lot of money and rare items saved up over the years. I don't think I've ever seen someone become a staff member because they were in the same gang as an admin, this isn't asylum. The stats page is free to look at and you can easily see how many hours, apd earnings, drugs sold, etc that anyone has. You spent who knows how long typing that wall of text, but didn't look on the stats page once 🤷‍♀️.

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On 9/29/2022 at 2:23 PM, ThatNerdyGuy said:

https://olympus-entertainment.com/support/

If an admin is overdoing it submit a report on them under player reports. That's how you can get action taken.

 

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20 hours ago, Farrel said:

watch ur fucking mouth gary 

I'm getting in game right now and buying a special purpose suit with a t5 helmet and a t5 vest and a bergan and filling it with nothing but grenades next time I see you I'm gonna chuck them at you 😃

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5 minutes ago, Grandma Gary said:

I'm getting in game right now and buying a special purpose suit with a t5 helmet and a t5 vest and a bergan and filling it with nothing but grenades next time I see you I'm gonna chuck them at you 😃

you will do nothing !!!!!!!!

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Aegis has unlimited money.  When you kill them and loot their y they have extremely wasteful  kits.  Dope shots, lethal injectors, and all  kinds of situational stuff they carry around completely casually.   I've never once seen them do a run, and their members all go up huge chunks of money.  It's not conquest doing it.   They wouldn't go up like that from conquest while spending how they do.  It's mad fish. 

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With your average staff member it's a non issue.  When that staff member is a part of the community, and extremely competitive,  it becomes a recruiting tool, and a balance breaker as that hypothetical staff member will do everything he can to avoid taking an L.

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35 minutes ago, The Sovereign said:

Aegis has unlimited money.  When you kill them and loot their y they have extremely wasteful  kits.  Dope shots, lethal injectors, and all  kinds of situational stuff they carry around completely casually.   I've never once seen them do a run, and their members all go up huge chunks of money.  It's not conquest doing it.   They wouldn't go up like that from conquest while spending how they do.  It's mad fish. 

This is very factual, after I and four others tried to counter Aegis. Two of them had four dope shots each and then once we all died they used 5 Lethal Injectors to finish us off

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On 9/29/2022 at 3:09 PM, Noble said:

heads up, all of us have so many points stored up that this would do nothing.

If that is the case. Why not enforce a 3 month forced point reset.  At some point admins have to meet the civs new and old halfway, or maybe even a mass-donation to server civs so it can be even grounds. 

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