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My Issue With The APD


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1 minute ago, TheRealKyle said:

ghosthawk is probably the stupidest thing on the server.

IMO: Reasons to pull ghosthawks

-Federal events after the bomb has blown

-2nd wave Rebel or Warzone

-Rescuing tazed cops? but that's kinda overkill (considering you'd kill the cops being taken)

I'd like to see Hunters utilized more to give the whole thing a more SWAT feel. Ghosthawks being pulled on orcas and hummingbirds just because they pissed you off are dumb. Ghosthawks being utilized for patrols are even worse.

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4 minutes ago, Greenarrow said:

IMO: Reasons to pull ghosthawks

-Federal events after the bomb has blown

-2nd wave Rebel or Warzone

-Rescuing tazed cops? but that's kinda overkill (considering you'd kill the cops being taken)

I'd like to see Hunters utilized more to give the whole thing a more SWAT feel. Ghosthawks being pulled on orcas and hummingbirds just because they pissed you off are dumb. Ghosthawks being utilized for patrols are even worse.

The only time I ever felt good about pulling a hawk was to chase kids sitting in orcas. Anything else just makes the game boring as hell. Honestly if I had stayed around and somehow gotten chief I would've put so much red tape around that thing you'd almost never see it.

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16 hours ago, snipeZ said:

But your argument is that we earn money. Well medics earn it a lot more and with much less risk. So are you complaining about how we fight or what we earn when we fight?

Yet how much money do you have from only being cop?

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12 minutes ago, Greenarrow said:

-Rescuing tazed cops? but that's kinda overkill (considering you'd kill the cops being taken)

what do you think hawks are...nukes?

1 minute ago, Ajax said:

Maybe make cops pay 10k to respawn... that’s how much civs pay to be revived

Cops pay the same thing when revived by a medic. Civs dont pay anything when they respawn

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Just going to throw this out there.

BW's are easier than Fed's when you don't have players being stupid by pushing the cops who are supposed to be attacking you.  You're crazy if you think you need 30 people to do a Federal Event, and if you need that many people, clearly the majority will play dumb and push.  

Also going to through this out there, Prime is the reason gang life is not in a great position right now.  Without going fully in depth, think about Prime like the Golden State Warriors or the New York Yankees.  All the best players went there because they saw them dominate.  Then some got caught using steroids(pulldowns or DDOS'ing) like A-Rod, Andy Petite, and Roger Clemens(Tiger, Haiwood, etc.)  Then what ever was left grew massive ego's because of how good they once were.  Now, it's a revolving cycle of gang's popping up Triden, Apes, etc. that never last because of someones ego.  Gang life is making a step in the right direction by going back to smaller gangs with a couple of good players.  If you were around for that time, it was literally the best gang life had ever been.  You had gangs like VX, Tree, MC, Ti, Evolved, Detectives, Pillow, BFO, DB, Los Zetas, X-Rated.  The list goes on and on.  

So in conclusion, Prime is the reason for both the rise and decline of Federal Events being done.  Not blaming the members or former members of Prime but explaining how we got to where we are today.

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Just now, Superiorr said:

remove the fed/bw channels in ts so cops cant see it and stack also give us 15 min dope timer after being lethaled also remove the dumb firing pin removal thanks

+1 on the 15 min dope timer

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2 minutes ago, Superiorr said:

+1 on all of them god forbid civs get a little buff

Firing pin removal imo was less for cops and more for vigi's or people robbing.  Removing the Federal Event channels does absolutely nothing because someone will go in TS and see 15 people in a channel and think "wow there must be a Federal Event going on???"

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Just now, N7Zero said:

remove vans at feds or allow us the right to blow them up. 

You already are allowed to blow them up.  @Walsh Weep does it everytime he brings a 50 cal.

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2 minutes ago, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Firing pin removal imo was less for cops and more for vigi's or people robbing.

You say that but cops still use the shit out of it and its aids.

2 minutes ago, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Removing the Federal Event channels does absolutely nothing because someone will go in TS and see 15 people in a channel and think "wow there must be a Federal Event going on???"

You are right

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1 minute ago, decla said:

Not really because they see first hand what it is like for cops the positives and negatives.

I was a corp when prime did all their blackwaters was a career cop for like 4 months not much has changed since then except for apd buffs

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14 hours ago, J O E said:

Why don't we make the average cop loadout cost more than an average rebel one but since it's an unlimited use then make it like 500k

LMAO “3-1 DROP ALL YOUR GEAR”

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1 hour ago, Millennium said:

 

Your argument is so Invalid. One of the major reasons why medics are a thing is to help civs AND cops. Yes they have discounts on vehicles, yes you make 17.5K per revive, it isnt that difficult to make money on Medic. Cops have NO NLR and can just respawn at the nearest HQ and go back to fighting civs or whatever they were doing before then, Civs have NLR so here is a good example: Major Pain one of the BIGGEST Kavala Scats on Olympus always betting in Kavala. If there are no medics on and he dies then he will have NLR he has to wait 15 minutes before he can go back there... OR a medic can go and revive him in that 15 minute time window. Medics aren't helping themselves like cops are they are helping others 99% of the time. Medics also have NLR under several different reasons.

 Cops never see a point in Medics or don't care about Medics because they don't need medics. If you are a EMT or Basic Paramedic that is the prime time to make money as a medic, they mainly stay in cities and help out anyone that needs help, Adv.,S&R, and Sr. Medics all are usually flying around from city to city or city to the middle of bum fuck no where taking time to make money. They have to usually get the people further away from cities which makes your time to make money a lot less money.

Medics are benefiting people in many ways. Cops don't benefit anyone but themselves usually(not saying APD is useless). If APD had discounts on vehicles they would have tons of vehicles meanwhile on medic you are usually always in a vehicle. Also most civs aren't fighting medics so they don't titan or destroy vehicles as much usually its just a mess up that causes Medics to lose insurance.

Most cops don't give 2 shits about medics if they press their panic button, or even when they had the medic/cop channel Medics are actually valuable to civs and a bunch of cops fail to see that. Without medics, civs would be a lot more poor and there wouldn't be nearly as many rebels to fight, or runs to bust due to arma bugs, rdm, just fights, or even more. Medics keep civs from losing a 150K+ loadout if they really need to request and many cops don't actually realize this. Also this is proof cops don't care, The first day after the cop and medic channel got removed on Jordan540's stream u can clearly tell Mako cares a lot about medics https://clips.twitch.tv/AgileGorgeousSpaghettiYee and ever since this channel got removed the likeliness of cops actually showing up to a medic pressing his/her panic button has become a lot slimmer. Yes the cop and medic channel was aids but just showing how cops don't realize the value of medics to Civs

Seperate from that:

Fighting cops in Warzone would be fun like last night BFO fought @Dante and a bunch of PO's we fought them for 3 waves then we stopped, it was fun and it would be really cool if we got some kind of reward for fighting them at the least. Even tho we were trying to get Dante to come it would still be cool to fight cops if other gangs are not on

 

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