Deep Dark Secrets Of SAPD

[Iceman 471]

   Hi Everyone; now that I'm able to speak my mind freely without needing to be worried about what I say in public, I'd like to make a post regarding my situation and shine some light on what really goes on behind closed doors.

 

   Before I get into it, I want it to be known that I did not "freely" step down because "I didn't want to be SAPD anymore." That is a lie, and you should feel ashamed for telling people that you know who you are. 

 

   First off, I would like to point out that since becoming a SGT almost 300 days ago, I have never missed a time, never missed an OIC, and have never been on LOA.

   For reference: (Each box represents a week, and the hours logged, I can only see 7 back.)

294

Iceman

4.83

4.98

3.53

3.63

3.12

3.77

3.93

 

   There have been times when playing was tough, but I stuck through it because of my friends and not wanting to let anyone down. Pretty stupid, considering it's a video game, but I like to make others happy, even at my own expense at times. I would also like to point out that since becoming a Sr APD member, I have never been in game with my chief, nor has he ever logged into the game since I was promoted. That's mind-blowing.

 

   I would like to bring to light some of the reasoning behind Winters and the upper SAPD feeling like they are above the rules they set for other people. Let's start with my conversation with the man himself during our final discussion today. He mentioned that he does not need to play in game due to completing "APD work" behind the scenes. That work consists of, and I quote, "This very conversation we are having right now." It was also mentioned that he sets up meetings (Quick Snapchat to the group chat FYI) and attends the meetings. I have also been at well over 80% of the meetings since becoming a senior, many others cannot say the same.

 

   At this point, I was questioned on what I bring to the table for the APD. I felt my single strongest quality as a SAPD member was my relationships with Jr APD and my approachability. I tried to make myself available as much as I could and get you an answer as fast as I could. I felt I was very liked by others; however, when I mentioned this, I was told by Winters, “That's very subjective.” I disagree, and I think a large majority of Jr APD who have played with me would as well. It was also discussed in my rebuttal that certain Captain+ SAPD members did not want to play with a variety of Jr APD members because (Quote) “I have already played with other people enough in my 1500 hours on cop.” FYI to anyone who submits a Feedback request, playing with a variety of people is one of the main things that is looked at when being judged. 

 

   I did my best to leave specific names out of this because I would like to maintain the character that I have upheld ever since becoming SAPD. However, I wanted to put this post out in the open and give everyone a first-person POV of what really is talked about and what really goes on when no one is looking. I could sit here and type all day with examples; however, I will leave it here because if you made it this far, you get the point. 

 

   I would like to thank ALL of the Jr. APD for the opportunity to lead you this past year. It was an amazing experience, so thank you.

 

[Hazardous 533]

irreplaceable... 

crazy the people they choose to be used for examples. highly disagree with this one.

[The_Real_Jester 52]

Damn, all these posts about how dogshit Winters is, and nothing has happened? Little to no activity, like what else do you need to get couped?

[Lucien 3080]

#believeallwomen

[JDC 306]

Never had a negative thought in my mind about you @ Iceman . You were a bright spot in the SAPD.

[Space Ranger 160]

34 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I would also like to point out that since becoming a Sr APD member, I have never been in game with my chief

@ Ryan

I hate to see this happen to someone who was so influential to the APD. Truly a character that cannot be replaced

Edited April 30, 2023 by Yeetus Deletus

[Mighty 1404]

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It’s a goddamn embarrassment to not play the game at all as the leader of the faction. Hypocrisy at its finest on display.

Just reposting @ ThatNerdyGuy 's amazing comment.

[Zeuse 1240]

@ Winters

[notsodank 941]

tldr: winter's needs low ranking sapd with crazy activity to compensate for his crazy inactivity 

[nman 535]

@ Iceman  was undoubtedly the most approachable, insightful, and reasonable sAPD that the faction has had. Countless times this dude went out of his way to solve various faction related issues for me when all of the others in my "chain of command" just would not. @ Winters  you are a clown, you are overwhelmingly the worst chief that the APD has had and you are mentioned for your inactivity and personality of a cardboard box on a daily almost hourly basis both on the forums in some capacity, and in teamspeak in the on duty channels. You are an ineffective leader and it is far past the time you should've stepped down and made way for a more reasonable choice. 

[Abundant 158]

Day one since PO's @ Iceman

https://gyazo.com/01d386293eefb6e06814cfeb3c97cd08 @ Winters

[SPBojo 6863]

@ Winters Can you just PLEASE resign already

[monster 5665]

[Diamond 405]

Its truly Sad when hypocrisy and delusions get put into a leadership role. One should lead by example not by the fist. @ Iceman was a fantastic Sergeant and more than ever shouldn't have been put through the grinder. Nor should the Chief of police impose any rules in which he cannot uphold himself. @ Winters All im gonna say this was not a good move on your part at all. Nor did it shine anymore light on the type of gentleman you are. Please do better not only for yourself but for this community. Your position plays a crucial role within the server and if this is the criteria that is set for it, It truly is a saddening.

[Eddy Spagooti 108]

bro yall need to step in and rectify this situation because this is not acceptable anymore, this is actually getting out of hand that out of all the seargents @ Iceman  was removed????????????

@ destruct  @ David Miller  @ Ryan  @ Grandma Gary

[ThatNerdyGuy 5914]

Hate to be that guy but since I left, Senior APD has been steadily circling the drain. This is because those at the top are so far removed from the Junior APD and even some other Senior APD their perception of the reality of the faction they run is far from the truth. As I said before it’s a shame that @ Winters  doesn’t even make an effort to play. Let alone the fact that some of those at the top of chain don’t want to play with certain Juniors. Your job is to play with Junior APD, when I was a senior the expectations were the same for all of Seniors. Quite frankly this is the type of bullshit I would expect from an incompetent Chief. But I don’t think that @ Winters  is incompetent. I just think it comes down to this, you’re either unwilling or unable. You can fix unable, you can’t fix unwilling. 

[Grizzly 383]

@ Iceman you were one of best SGT out there, I could always rely on to help me when I needed it the most, anytime I needed something (no matter how dumb) you were always the first Sr to respond to my msg. I think it is BS how this so called "Chief" sets these rules that he cannot follow. I have talked with many Srs including APD and RnR and there is no amount of paper work on this server (not including dev work and all of that just Sr paper work) that could fulfil 10hrs a week @ Winters you've had a... run... but come on man its time to give it up. You let one of the most helpful and favorite Sr's go when you do nothing but sit in TeamSpeak all day muted and count that toward your 10hrs. You haven't done 10hrs worth of work this year alone. Also I love our staff on this server, we have the best staff out of any Arma 3 server out there. But its a shame that @ Ryan and @ Grandma Gary have not forced you out of your position. And @ Iceman I wish you luck with whatever you do with your future, always one of my favorite Sr's to play with (even though you couldn't go undercover to save your life ) but thats besides the point

1 minute ago, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Hate to be that guy but since I left, Senior APD has been steadily circling the drain. This is because those at the top are so far removed from the Junior APD and even some other Senior APD their perception of the reality of the faction they run is far from the truth. As I said before it’s a shame that @ Winters  doesn’t even make an effort to play. Let alone the fact that some of those at the top of chain don’t want to play with certain Juniors. Your job is to play with Junior APD, when I was a senior the expectations were the same for all of Seniors. Quite frankly this is the type of bullshit I would expect from an incompetent Chief. But I don’t think that @ Winters  is incompetent. I just think it comes down to this, you’re either unwilling or unable. You can fix unable, you can’t fix unwilling. 

Can I get more reactions xD I cant like your message now

[GST 183]

@ Iceman  I'm sorry I didn't get much time to get to play with you, however you will absolutely be missed. 

 

Best wishes, and best of luck with the future mate. 

[Eddy Spagooti 108]

Iceman was maybe the most consistent seargent who played with anyone regardless of what gang they were associated with and the type of person they were.... he always took the time to make sure everybody in his channel was always following the rules and trying to make the cop experience fun for everyone involved including civs, if anyone needed a role model to follow if they wanted to move up in the APD faction @ Iceman  was def top 5. Im sure i speak for the majority of this community when i say that whatever the thought process that occurred to remove iceman was probably the most flawed and braindead decision that has been made in possibly the last 2 years of this server. def in the top 10 worst decisions in the history of this server being up.

[Grizzly 383]

Also can you guess which one of these Sr APD members got removed? https://gyazo.com/478445c0107452d8f92c2735daa7664d https://gyazo.com/55b4711f95117002064f752630542d70 really is a shame

[johnny goose 3338]

Ive been saying this guy needs to be gone for well over a year, glad people are starting to finally realise how shit of a chief we currently have. Bring us back to when chiefs would rotate every 6 months to a year. Id also like to bring up my point in the other post that next up is mako or caden. Mako is CM so he should automatically be ineligable for chief imo and just look at how cadens handled swat. If a coup was to happen whoevers managing it needs to put a capable and willing chief up instead of just following the busted COC created by this inactive retard.

As for your situation @ Iceman  it is truly a shame to see them boot you off. Ive been blacklisted for a couple years now and still knew you were one of the better Sapd.

[Grizzly 383]

1 minute ago, fat female arma 3 player said:

If a coup was to happen whoevers managing it needs to put a capable and willing chief up instead of just following the busted COC created by this inactive retard.

IMO @ Rexo would be one of if not the best Chief the APD has ever seen

[Space Ranger 160]

4 minutes ago, GrizzlyMan1252 said:

IMO @ Rexo would be one of if not the best Chief the APD has ever seen

+1

[Zeuse 1240]

3 minutes ago, GrizzlyMan1252 said:

IMO @ Rexo would be one of if not the best Chief the APD has ever seen

ok

[monster 5665]

4 minutes ago, GrizzlyMan1252 said:

IMO @ Rexo would be one of if not the best Chief the APD has ever seen

the dick riding is crazy...