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1 hour ago, Hoonter said:

The only way the workers will ever benefit from that wealth is if we pry it from there corpses 

Why do you believe you are entitled to someone else's wealth is the real question... Sure the tax/etc loopholes the 1% leverage to save money is BS... But hardly their fault...

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1 hour ago, MAV said:

Why do you believe you are entitled to someone else's wealth is the real question... Sure the tax/etc loopholes the 1% leverage to save money is BS... But hardly their fault...

Careful hes a communist he made that very clear

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Just now, MAV said:

Why do you believe you are entitled to someone else's wealth is the real question...

Why do I believe I am entitled to there wealth? Well to start the extreme rich typically get there through the exploitation of the workers and there work. They hoard this immense wealth when people starve across the globe and live life in squabble while those who steal this money live in luxury. I am not proposing breaking there piggy bank, no we must change the systems we live under in order to be free from exploitation to be free from hunger and fear.

 

Just now, MAV said:

 Sure the tax/etc loopholes the 1% leverage to save money is BS... But hardly their fault...

  How is this not there fault many of them support or are directly involved in the government that sets in place the tax policy allowing them to cheat the system to save money

1 minute ago, Hoonter said:

Why do I believe I am entitled to there wealth? Well to start the extreme rich typically get there through the exploitation of the workers and there work. They hoard this immense wealth when people starve across the globe and live life in squabble while those who steal this money live in luxury. I am not proposing breaking there piggy bank, no we must change the systems we live under in order to be free from exploitation to be free from hunger and fear.

How is this not there fault many of them support or are directly involved in the government that sets in place the tax policy allowing them to cheat the system to save money

This will be my only reply on the topic, but food for thought... They became wealthy from engineering an idea or working business model and HIRING people to work for them (not exploiting) Those people can quit or look for another job or educate themselves to put themselves in a position for another job at any time they want without fear or backlash from their organization or the government... But if they quit and decide to sit on their ass and be lazy, ya they're not going to have a fun go at it...it's call life

Funny you speak about fear, look at Communist nation's like China and tell me how their people are not hungry and live without fear... Simple answer is you cannot... Try again...

As for the taxation piece, "some" of them are in a position to change it... Not even close to the majority... Can't group the many with the few, that type of unconscious bias is what causes a lot of the profiling issues we face today... Also why can't I fault them? If anyone reading this thread had a financial advisor say, hey you should buy a ranch or farmland because if you do so you can get a huge tax write off and end up saving millions of dollars a year...if anyone says "nah, I like losing money" you are a flat out liar... So why isn't their fault? Because if you think intelligently and realistically, it would be a poor financial decision not to exploit a loophole where there is not law preventing them to do so.

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4 hours ago, MAV said:

Why do you believe you are entitled to someone else's wealth is the real question... Sure the tax/etc loopholes the 1% leverage to save money is BS... But hardly their fault...

just like to point out that jeff bezos makes an average of 4.4 million dollars in an hour and he pays no income tax

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52 minutes ago, Ziggyuwu said:

just like to point out that jeff bezos makes an average of 4.4 million dollars in an hour and he pays no income tax

And how is that his fault? Your going to blame Jeff Bezos for not giving away money or for the govt to let him earn money tax free? Why should he offer to pay taxes when hes being allowed not to. Amazon already is ahead of the curve nationally when it comes to wages, employee benefits, etc. 

1 hour ago, MAV said:

This will be my only reply on the topic, but food for thought... They became wealthy from engineering an idea or working business model and HIRING people to work for them (not exploiting) Those people can quit or look for another job or educate themselves to put themselves in a position for another job at any time they want without fear or backlash from their organization or the government... But if they quit and decide to sit on their ass and be lazy, ya they're not going to have a fun go at it...it's call life

Funny you speak about fear, look at Communist nation's like China and tell me how their people are not hungry and live without fear... Simple answer is you cannot... Try again...

As for the taxation piece, "some" of them are in a position to change it... Not even close to the majority... Can't group the many with the few, that type of unconscious bias is what causes a lot of the profiling issues we face today... Also why can't I fault them? If anyone reading this thread had a financial advisor say, hey you should buy a ranch or farmland because if you do so you can get a huge tax write off and end up saving millions of dollars a year...if anyone says "nah, I like losing money" you are a flat out liar... So why isn't their fault? Because if you think intelligently and realistically, it would be a poor financial decision not to exploit a loophole where there is not law preventing them to do so.

I would reply with a actual rebut but considering you have stated that you are not going to reply further it's litterally a waste of both our times 

3 hours ago, Ziggyuwu said:

just like to point out that jeff bezos makes an average of 4.4 million dollars in an hour and he pays no income tax

I mean if you had and made that much money I'm pretty sure you wouldn't care to pay taxes either 

5 hours ago, MAV said:

This will be my only reply on the topic, but food for thought... They became wealthy from engineering an idea or working business model and HIRING people to work for them (not exploiting) Those people can quit or look for another job or educate themselves to put themselves in a position for another job at any time they want without fear or backlash from their organization or the government... But if they quit and decide to sit on their ass and be lazy, ya they're not going to have a fun go at it...it's call life

Funny you speak about fear, look at Communist nation's like China and tell me how their people are not hungry and live without fear... Simple answer is you cannot... Try again...

As for the taxation piece, "some" of them are in a position to change it... Not even close to the majority... Can't group the many with the few, that type of unconscious bias is what causes a lot of the profiling issues we face today... Also why can't I fault them? If anyone reading this thread had a financial advisor say, hey you should buy a ranch or farmland because if you do so you can get a huge tax write off and end up saving millions of dollars a year...if anyone says "nah, I like losing money" you are a flat out liar... So why isn't their fault? Because if you think intelligently and realistically, it would be a poor financial decision not to exploit a loophole where there is not law preventing them to do so.

 

4 hours ago, MAV said:

And how is that his fault? Your going to blame Jeff Bezos for not giving away money or for the govt to let him earn money tax free? Why should he offer to pay taxes when hes being allowed not to. Amazon already is ahead of the curve nationally when it comes to wages, employee benefits, etc. 

I never realized you are so fucking woke. Holy shit.👏

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14 hours ago, bigSMOKE said:

GIVE ALL MY MONEY TO THE GOVERNMENT

In Norway we pay a 25% base tax, this increases slightly as you earn more but caps out eventually. Because of our way higher tax then whats usual in the US we get free health care, Cheap AF public transportation that isn't shit. Free Collage and wealthfare for people who need it and cant work. General public infrastructure isn't shit. Norway basically has no dept other then a small amount just for trading purposes.

Even though we have systems which you would automatically scream "communist" at like a child. I would classify Norway and the rest of the Scandinavian countries as "Capitalistic socialistic democracy". We have a open market and anyone can start a private company and go ham with it if the choose to. You can 110% do your own thing BUT we have higher tax so that we don't need to go bankrupt over basic human needs.

Also Norway isn't really in the EU, we just trade with the EU. (Short version) 🙂

@Boomer xD

 

14 hours ago, bigSMOKE said:

HAD TO GET SAVED BY AMERICA

lol. Atleast we arent in 22trillion dollars dept because of our excessive military spending. But thanks for that one tho.

 

Oh and we have this: https://www.nbim.no/en/

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