Restrict the ability to pull ghost hawks to active Sr. APD, retired chiefs & active staff members with proper ranks Actual L, there are a handful of retired SAPD with SGT+ whitelists that have well over thousands of hours on cop (Boomer as an example with 4.9k APD hours) that know their shit and barely if even pull their hawks at all unless it explicitly requires it, I am curious on the discussions/reasoning this was approved in the first place as this only hurts people who have contributed significantly in the first place as an active SAPD member to even GET a SGT+ retired rank. 

I can see this negatively affecting JrAPD gameplay in a few ways: 

1. Handful of POs and one retired SAPD member with an LT WL responding to active fed, money leaves gold trader in Orca, retired LT cannot pull Ghawk on Orca so basically free money for civs

2. Handful of POs and one retired SAPD member with an SGT WL responding to active fed, bomb blows and civs are holding in dome with no intent to leave after numerous waves, retired SGT cannot pull ghawk so civs can just sit there and milk the fed cancering the cops until the civs decide they want to leave.
 

9 minutes ago, Element_ said:

(Boomer as an example with 4.9k APD hours) that know their shit

The dude was questioning if he should go guns hot or not when people were shooting at his ghost hawk the other day and decided to not shoot unless the other Sgt whitelist decided it.

Don't get me wrong I like the dude and he is a very nice dude... but he ain't the brightest when it comes to rules.

12 minutes ago, Element_ said:

1. Handful of POs and one retired SAPD member with an LT WL responding to active fed, money leaves gold trader in Orca, retired LT cannot pull Ghawk on Orca so basically free money for civs

They have armed planes and other aerial vehicles to pursue it

20 minutes ago, Element_ said:

2. Handful of POs and one retired SAPD member with an SGT WL responding to active fed, bomb blows and civs are holding in dome with no intent to leave after numerous waves, retired SGT cannot pull ghawk so civs can just sit there and milk the fed cancering the cops until the civs decide they want to leave.

There are many ways to counteract people sitting in a dome, a ghost hawk is not the only reason.

45 minutes ago, Millennium said:

The dude was questioning if he should go guns hot or not when people were shooting at his ghost hawk the other day and decided to not shoot unless the other Sgt whitelist decided it.

Don't get me wrong I like the dude and he is a very nice dude... but he ain't the brightest when it comes to rules.

They have armed planes and other aerial vehicles to pursue it

There are many ways to counteract people sitting in a dome, a ghost hawk is not the only reason.

He's the highest hour retired SGT WL I know, purely why I mentioned him with regards to hours and not to rules.

Onto armed planes, aren't they supposed to be stupid expensive to pull as APD or some shit now? Next thing you know when retired WLs pull armed planes for everything because they can't pull hawks CC will come out the next meeting with "Restrict armed plane use to active Sr. APD, retired chiefs & active staff members with proper ranks." 

What I'm gathering now is that it wasn't even a discussion it was a "get fucked we're doing it" conversation, so much for roundtables ig. Try not to use a position to push your own agenda on the Mecca speedrun (impossible) (Any %)

Actually sickening 

I'm not trying to shitpost my way of an actual convo but I just feel like its a slap in the face to everyone who has contributed significantly to APD over the years and they get their cheeks clapped for no reason.





 

Try to avoid stats or numbers they hate that  

This roundtable sucks. There is plenty of shit that has been failed to be held up on but it only really matters when APD does it apparently.

 New Point System (Year old approval)

Civs got advanced rebel (Everyone is running around with a tier 4 at the minimum) And the APD has yet to get any worth while buffs.

1 minute ago, Karma said:

This roundtable sucks. There is plenty of shit that has been failed to be held up on but it only really matters when APD does it apparently.

 

 New Point System (Year old approval)

Civs got advanced rebel (Everyone is running around with a tier 4 at the minimum) And the APD has yet to get any worth while buffs.

Take that up with Senior staff and development team…

Revert the armed planes to 7.62 COAX LMG

• It is currently a .50 cal

alright whos shitty idea was this? lynch his ass. 

1 hour ago, Millennium said:

Take that up with Senior staff and development team…

Yeah once again, “senior staff and development team” only half of them voted on it some didn’t even know… making up problems out of thin air and taking huge steps like this without ever even giving a video or submitting an AI is unheard of and just an overall horrible decision. Doing something like this to people who dedicated thousands of hours towards the faction on a whim is crazy work. The blame isn’t solely on you but also “senior staff and dev team” for letting it happen. 

22 minutes ago, billdroid said:

Yeah once again, “senior staff and development team” only half of them voted on it some didn’t even know… making up problems out of thin air and taking huge steps like this without ever even giving a video or submitting an AI is unheard of and just an overall horrible decision. Doing something like this to people who dedicated thousands of hours towards the faction on a whim is crazy work. The blame isn’t solely on you but also “senior staff and dev team” for letting it happen. 

HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE APD POINT SYSTEM RETARD.

39 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Revert the armed planes to 7.62 COAX LMG

• It is currently a .50 cal

alright whos shitty idea was this? lynch his ass. 

mine

Yeah well I’m not and my point still stands 

Memes aside, I feel for the APD. What a slap to the face.

31 minutes ago, -B- said:

Memes aside, I feel for the APD. What a slap to the face.

That's it I'm coming for the R&R's retired hawks next!

rebels on top, fuck apd. 

RnR just straight gave up on roundtable ideas?

@ silton nice bro 

13 hours ago, Bubbaloo - Reusable P Cup said:

Sometimes I think Civs would just rather remove APD all together and just make this a king of the hill server.  

Now that you have mentioned it..... what a great idea ! No more apd kicking medics from areas I like it