Lucki 950 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 I would like to offer my own opinion and input into the latest situation. This is purely my perspective and does not reflect OS as a whole. Having been both a Deputy Chief - for a significant portion of time – and a mod for what will almost be the same amount of time, I hope my point of view is one that people can find to be helpful. I want to say that most people think of me as being fairly level-headed and unbiased, but that is for you to judge. My biggest qualm is reading the opinions of people who have not been on either side, Senior APD or OS. Your perspective of the server changes once you become Sr. APD, and it changes once again once you have been a long time LT, or are one of the lucky few to go above that. While the Sgt’s have quite a significant amount of power within the APD, they realistically have little input into changing how the APD operates. MANY ideas and changes are debated within only the chief and dep chiefs, with only a small fraction surviving through to be talked to with an additional few LT’s. The ideas that survive that are then brought up at Sr. APD meetings. The Sgt’s see only 10% of what goes on, and the LT’s see maybe 33%. The back room dealings that go on are absolutely ridiculous and more than you would ever anticipate from a video game. While I was a deputy chief before mod, I would be notified by GOAT about changes that would be occurring, changes that he shouldn’t have known about but were crucial for us to know beforehand so that we could try to figure out a compromise. This was not only true under GOAT’s reign. It happens, and at the end of the day it is unavoidable and part of the “politics” involved with running a server. Before I go on, I do want to say that GOAT has done MANY great things for APD. He’s been a thorn in the side of some OS members, but has been a great balance on many topics. He fought hard for APD to be the best, because he truly cared about it. But he’s also done some shady things when I was deputy chief. Once again, he is not the only one to have done this, by far. No matter how great someone is, everyone has a shady side. There were some things done by GOAT that I did not agree with, and in some cases I was able to convince him otherwise. Other times, I just went along with it because the net good outweighed the bad. When I became mod – something that GOAT had told me I should actively seek out since I mentioned interest in it – I had a better grasp of what exactly GOAT knew and didn’t know. Not ONCE did I feel pressured to give something up to GOAT and to use my mod powers / access to give APD an edge. The entire time he did have more information than he should have known in his position, but in the end it did benefit the APD and the server as a whole so I never made a big deal out of it. To those of you who have never experienced either side of APD or OS administration, I beg that you keep your inflammatory comments and accusations, and instead gain information in a constructive way. Last January when GOAT almost lost his Chief status, a majority of the APD had stepped down because they disagreed with the staff and what had happened. There was a several hour discussion / debate / argument that ensued. Shouldn’t the fact that not a SINGLE member has stepped down this time, and that it all happened in the span of an hour, be a signal to you? Yes, there are things that you are not privy to, both good and bad. I ask that you look at all sides, realize that every story has 3 sides (the accuser, the defender, and the truth) and figure out which side is closer to the truth. See which side has more supporters of the people that are in the know. All of the Senior APD loved GOAT. All of the Senior APD have remained. 13 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Randyy 961 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 i have read to many things tonight 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Lethal 636 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) heres an outside POV: a rat really really wants Senior admin. Edited January 23, 2018 by Lethal 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa 232 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Oof some of y’all take this game way to serious lmao. 4 Quote Link to comment
GummyCow 203 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Randyy said: i have read to many things tonight i have two Quote Link to comment
iPopsicle 2205 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 The fourth side to the story is the memes, never forget the memes. But good post. I have read more the last 24 hours than I have in high school (thanks sparknotes). 4 Quote Link to comment
ItsGG 1477 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 in b4 the tin foil hats give their theories Quote Link to comment
Lucki 950 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lethal said: heres an outside POV: a rat really really wants Senior admin. So what you just said right there, indirectly, is that you believe that "the rat" did something that the senior administration deems favorable. The same senior administration that has been running a successful server. If the senior administration has been successful thus far, doesn't that mean that they are doing something right, and should continue with whatever route they have in mind? While I understand that you're upset about the situation, what about my post specifically did you not like or agree with? 1 Quote Link to comment
Lethal 636 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lucki said: So what you just said right there, indirectly, is that you believe that "the rat" did something that the senior administration deems favorable. The same senior administration that has been running a successful server. If the senior administration has been successful thus far, doesn't that mean that they are doing something right, and should continue with whatever route they have in mind? While I understand that you're upset about the situation, what about my post specifically did you not like or agree with? IMO what happened was blown way out of proportion, and to clarify i dont really care im just here to stir the pot. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment
Dangus 629 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Ignis said: (thanks sparknotes). Can relate 100% 1 Quote Link to comment
Lucki 950 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lethal said: IMO what happened was blown way out of proportion, and to clarify i dont really care im just here to stir the pot. So you're just trying to cause drama without anything constructive coming out of it. Thanks. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Lethal 636 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, Lucki said: So you're just trying to cause drama without anything constructive coming out of it. Thanks. precisely Quote Link to comment
Hoonter 232 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 As a Moderator and former Dep. Chief do you feel having a Admin as chief of police will be a good or a bad thing for the future of the APD? Quote Link to comment
Arigato 433 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hoonter said: As a Moderator and former Dep. Chief do you feel having a Admin as chief of police will be a good or a bad thing for the future of the APD? We've had admins as chiefs before and it was fine. Quote Link to comment
Lucki 950 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Hoonter said: As a Moderator and former Dep. Chief do you feel having a Admin as chief of police will be a good or a bad thing for the future of the APD? Many people forget that @McDili was an Admin while he was Chief of APD. A lot of people consider McDili's time as the golden age when APD really started to grow and evolve. He literally set the foundation for what APD is today. To counter that, before McDili, there is an example of an admin that was chief that IMO really stagnated APD and only promoted their own friends. That was not a good chief. There are way too many factors that go into it to boil it down to 2 categories - admin or non-admin. I personally, would not want to be a chief while in OS at the same time, but that is mainly due to time constraints. Having a full time job, planning a wedding, etc, would put too much stress on me, and I wouldn't be there as much as I would need to be. That was part of the reason I stepped down. With Rex on the other hand, he was made a dep. chief by GOAT, so a non-OS liked his opinions and skills. Rex also has a decent amount of free time, is respected by the SAPD, and like his predecessor, does a good job at listening to others and valuing their opinions. He's been around the block a few times and has been pretty instrumental to keeping SAPD sane by constantly coming up with ways to make everyone's life easier and the duties more enjoyable. I believe he will continue to make APD a solid faction and one of the things that keeps Olympus interesting and unique. Time can only tell how it will work out. 5 Quote Link to comment
bigSMOKE 924 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 For everyone saying rex did it for chief or whatever, you gotta respect he didn’t get chief off of being admin he got it off of climbing the ranks for a long time, I’ve seen him go from P.O. to chief, it wasn’t an overnight thing whatsoever. The admin and all just care along the journey and wasn’t there before he started. @TheCmdrRex 1 Quote Link to comment
I Am Fuzzy 997 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Man, some of you are gonna feel lost in a few years when this game dies and your forced to move on. 7 Quote Link to comment
Fake Grandma 514 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Lucki +1, an actual post that doesn't rant about this and that. I like it 1 Quote Link to comment
Jaster 635 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Ignis said: thanks sparknotes No love for quizlet? Quote Link to comment
batGooseCan 614 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 My boy @Lucki with both sides. A true dude. Lucki for chief. Quote Link to comment
Bocaj 111 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Ignis said: I have read more the last 24 hours than I have in high school (thanks sparknotes). Agreed. But none the less, good message @Lucki Quote Link to comment
Dirty Scrubz 127 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, I Am Fuzzy said: Man, some of you are gonna feel lost in a few years when this game dies and your forced to move on. They'll hang on to the fake power until the curtain falls and their illusion shatters. The same is true over on the other side too (Asylum) except over there the curtain is coming down pretty fast. 1 Quote Link to comment
John Wayne 572 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Man we’re still posting about this? It’s old news guys, lets move on to dead gang life and pushing rocks 1 Quote Link to comment
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