Popular Post PolarBear 303 Posted July 6, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) It's been a long haul, but *somebody* has to show certain @Senior APD Member how to retire and let someone else add their love to the game. Everyone that's met me here, it's always been when I'm a medic and saving your ass when I could, I'd always do what I could to talk my way into reviving as many as I could, for the lols of it. I've enjoyed this game as a medic for the past 2 years and have made a lot of observations about the certain groups of people who play Olympus. Something unique to Arma roleplay servers (which there aren't many of those left anymore) is that each and every one of us get to determine what our "victory" conditions are, how you "win* playing this game on Olympus. It all depends on how you play and the dynamics of Arma that interest you most. Most of us know the big three, the civs, the APD and the R&R. Depending on what brings you joy; making money, combat, roleplay, that would greatly influence what faction you spent most time with. God knows I've *infuriated* a fair number of people on this server with my roleplay and to those people, I say "Good." However the people I infuriated the most would be the fourth group that none of us really pay attention to, which are the trolls. Those that in order to reach their victory conditions, they derive their joy out of denying other peoples joy of playing the game. You know the type. Those who get their jollies off of by robbing and chopping peach farmers vehicles, those that 3-1 a cop *every* single time, those that love pushing the rules to their absolute breaking point just to be a fuck. Some of you are much better at being a troll than others and some of you are just *garbage* lol There's also a problem when those people sit in higher ranks and let entire factions stagnate. When I first starting in R&R, I'll be honest, I had a markedly anti-APD stance due to a lot of ridiculously aggressive encounters early on. I never understood why the Senior APD members had such a negative view of R&R until one night I somehow got pulled into an APD channel off-duty and managed to ask and just listen to several complaints about interactions with R&R and how much vitriol there was, but the origins of which run so much farther past than *any* of the Senior R&R that are active now. how long would R&R pay for the sins of its fathers? What I would have to say, especially to @ Mako is that your history with this server seems to weigh on you like an albatross. I understand the amount of time and work you've put into this server, but you've also done incalculable and irreparable damage to morale of both the APD *and* the R&R, (And the civ population for other shit) by not knowing when it's time to let go and step aside. You seem aggrieved that no one appreciates the work you've done in the past when they aren't paying fealty to you now. The exact same thing can be said about @ nicole and @ Winters about knowing when it's time to hang 'em up. The three of you have become trolls in senior positions and that's a problem. You're pushing out those that don't agree with the way you do things and rather than hear criticism, let's just institute a 10 hour minimum to push out who we dont like. I've never been more disgusted with the APD until this year's April Fool's when it was officially "Bully the faction that doesn't carry guns" day, also revoke your own handbook and declare hunting day on the medics and seize countless vehicles just to be contrarian, I don't know. I haven't even seen Winters on EVER until that day, when you hopped on just to hunt us down. It's instances like that, in a long line of instances that has soured the relationship between our factions that won't subside until you three specifically go. Retire, then you can focus on being a retired troll and let others take APD into their hands and shape it into something better; instead of digging in your heels or taking charge of a second re-work that R&R didn't want and didn't need and throwing out all of Sploding's amazing work. I don't care if "it's your job," as a "Community Mangler" or being a dev, you should've stood aside and let someone else with less hatred aimed at R&R do it. We all *LOVED* the way R&R looked before you just HAD to fuck us over again for your "file size" but can you blame us for wondering it's just because you can't stand us for reasons that aren't *anyones* fault that's currently in R&R. People have been saying this server is dying since 2018 but now, there's only one server left and I doubt whether Arma 4 will release before Olympus goes under. A large part of that failure is the stress because you three specifically hate not just R&R, but anyone with a different way of thinking or doing things. You hold all the power in your faction and you have no interest in changing things for the better. Your radioactivity that saps players will to play on this server builds up over time. The entire point the three of you miss is that APD and R&R is *supposed* to provide the bulk of the roleplay and services interactions for the civ population and to provide opportunities for them to live in a richer, fuller world. If the civ population tanks, there's no point to APD and R&R. Sure, you can scream and cry about how it's a "light roleplay" server, but when you behave in a manner than makes people hate playing here, they leave. There's not but so many more times they can put Arma on sale and we fill this last remaining server enough for @ Ryan to keep the lights on. Allllll that being said, so much could be done to create more engaging opportunities that will keep civs here and both of our factions working for the betterment of the server but you three have no interest in that. You've achieved your golden pedestals and you aren't leaving. I ask you this, when there's nobody left around your pedestal because of your bullshit, what's the point? How's the weather up there on your pedestal alone? Will you feel satisfied when there's no one left? What will you do when there's no one left to worship the "work" you've put into this place? That being said, I've got lots to look after in my own life and I will always remember my time here fondly for the most part. Some of you here will inevitably cheer my departure (And before you ask, @ Zombie Mall Cop yes, the divorce is going well, it's all part of my plan to go fuck your mom so she can have a child she's proud of) and for others, I will miss you. For any of you who listened to my attempts to revive everyone I could, I appreciate any of you that let me talk you into letting me make money. @ XnavrasX To my medic brother and favorite wingman, I will always appreciate all the times you were there for me as a medic and a friend. My favorite Sup from when I joined and one of the best videogame friends I've made. You're one of the very few in R&R I have no fear flying formation with, I appreciate you my dude. @ Marcus & @ Camper The three of us were Basics together and it's been an honor and a privilege working with the both of you. Marcus, you in particular have put your heart and sould into this faction and I know our inability to get new and interesting things added for us in R&R is beyond your control. You will remain my favorite CO of R&R and you keep fighting the good fight for all of us medics. @ SpecTGV You're an excellent coordinator and you absolutely deserve it. You have the time and dedication the faction truly deserves because I've seen what happens when R&R has inactive Coords and above and I've never had more faith in our Command staff than I have in you, Camper, Nav and Marcus. Keep at it. @ Coconut My brother in infant arms. I don't envy where you are, the sleepless nights, the constant hypervigilance, adjusting to some new's needs and putting aside your own. Keep at it my brother. Im coming to meet my nephew one of these days. Mark my words. @ Diamond & @ Grizzly & @ Justi1 I know we haven't seen eye to eye about a lot of stuff, but I always appreciate the professionalism and dedication you have for the faction. @ Blue Look after yourself and I hope your health does nothing but improve @ XOID You crazy New Zealander (Or is it Australia? Hell I cant remember) I'll miss chatting with you at odd-ass hours of the night. @ Moxi The Loli My dude. My favorite pararescue, even though you had real life stuff to tend to, it would've been great to burn a few down. Sometime soon, I'm sure. Keep at it and be the roleplayer I know you can be looool @ ladymedusa My second favorite Pararescue and the last one I voted in. Don't any bullshit from these knobs. You'll do just fine. @ Element_ Alright fine, my third favorite pararescue. I'll never forget the *shit hot* flying you did that allowed me to one-up and escape APD when they tried to unjustly down my Ghawk. @ Jerry Swindler My second brother in R&R, I've enjoyed every instance of chaos and ridiculousness we've gotten into as medics and enjoyed our status as the R&R Silver Squad with @ Lea To the Queen of Cupcakes. I would *always* leave space in my inventory, just so you could put-pocket a cupcake or two in my backpack. I always smiled when I opened my pack and there was a cupcake inexplicably there. @ milorules1012 Sorry I gave you the business during your flight test. I think you're going to make a great medic and any medic that makes relevant, hysterical R&R memes is good in my book. Keep at it. @R&R MedicTo all my fellow Vultures, circling the corpses, doing everything you can to feast on the 20k left behind in every dead body on the ground, keep fighting the good fight. I'll always love you, you scavengers of gamers with skill issues. @ ryguy1321 (Mike Hawk) I'm relieved to see you playing R&R under your own account, finally. Like everyone didn't already know what was going on. @ Clash & @ Brolaf I gotta thank the both of you for some shit-hot fun dogfights. I still want round 3. @ Headless I will always miss our late night chats and truly enjoyed them. Next time im here, we'll have to wax philosophical again @ Rafa There is nothing in this world I loved more than when you would pop into a channel and tell the most amazing stories I've ever heard. I will cherish every single one of them. @ The Sovereign The Queen of Chaos. The number of times I had to hear the angry grumblings of some poor dead civ that died at your hands or the *ANGER* involved in denying you, always was fun. So many times I'd revive someone you killed, to the sound of me laughing at them just to add insult to being dead. Glorious. @ codeYeTi I appreciate everything you've done and this is a much better place because of you. Thank you so much for everything. @ Mighty I've never been prouder to watch someone sow chaos in my name. @ Scribble What can I say, I'll miss you too, you big fucking lunk. Take care of yourself and keep trolling. @ TapTap Whenever I learned you were involved in an APD situation, I *knew* it was going to be a good time. From getting my own Ghawk stolen by you until APD started shooting us down, to the time you wanted me to ignore what mama told me about lying and saying "APD" was the best faction. I appreciate the laughs, my dude. @ Hawkgnewaccount I will miss picking at you. Please know it was in good fun and I'll miss even you. I hope you rise far beyond Olympus. And now to especially everyone in APD right now. Since I became a Senior Medic, I did everything in my power to help change and repair the connection between our factions. I've truly enjoyed the roleplay opportunities I've had with a lot of you and I've always tried to generous with my lollipops when you guys were around. It sounds so ridiculous to say now considering my thoughts about APD early on, it's been an honor and privilege and I've had the most fun interacting with all of you since becoming a Senior in R&R. Keep fighting the good fight. To anyone I've forgotten, My bad, Im entirely too old for Arma anymore and I can't be blamed for the shit memory Thanks everyone on Olympus and take care of yourselves. @ Lucien & @ Connor S I just wanted the both of you tagged in one last R&R thread before I go. Edited July 6, 2023 by PolarBear 28 6 4 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment
monster 5665 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, PolarBear said: I've never been more disgusted with the APD until this year's April Fool's when it was officially "Bully the faction that doesn't carry guns" day, also revoke your own handbook and declare hunting day on the medics and seize countless vehicles just to be contrarian, I don't know. I haven't even seen Winters on EVER until that day, when you hopped on just to hunt us down. It's instances like that, in a long line of instances that has soured the relationship between our factions that won't subside until you three specifically go. I hate to tell you like this, but that was infact not @ Winters and was actually me. Also on april fools I was tanked, armed xian'd, and ghosthawked by the R&R so what they got was ultimately deserved. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
PolarBear 303 Posted July 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, monster said: I hate to tell you like this, but that was infact not @ Winters and was actually me. Also on april fools I was tanked, armed xian'd, and ghosthawks so what they got was ultimately deserved. Well in honesty that kinda makes it worse. That means I've *never* seen the Chief of APD be online. Ever. Quote Link to comment
johnny goose 3338 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Never got the chance to speak with you much but always had good interactions in game. 07 man 1 Quote Link to comment
Zombie Mall Cop 252 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Why was i tagged in this i dont even know you bro lmao 5 Quote Link to comment
Community Manager Mako 3506 Posted July 6, 2023 Community Manager Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Going to break it down since you had large paragraphs repeated I don't hate the RnR, I just enjoy having a mild drama beef with them, the only thing I don't like is that historically nothing happens on RnR reports and it's pointless in asking SRnR to address any issues because they'll just laugh it off and continue to allow medics to break rules. It's honestly been like this since I originally joined in 2017. I don't know what your grievances are with either Winters or Nicole but it really goes to show that you've never honestly interacted with them and can't see the backend of the faction. You don't know who isn't active, who isn't meeting their desk activities, who is getting IA'd, etc. from the outside looking in "hurr APD bad, I was removed!!" seems like an appealing thing to jump on the bandwagon however you're literally backing someone who stepped down of their own volition then lied about it for community sympathy. The 10hr minimum was meant to encourage SAPD to actually play since the desk duties they were completing were light, SAPD in the past historically put more time into the server and did their duties + some additional. I literally got Ghosthawked by an armed medic Ghosthawk? I don't know how you can be upset about losing minor amounts of money on vehicles for a faction that literally doesn't spend any. The April Fools beef has historically led to APD vs. RnR interactions, it really isn't that personal I had a blast that day and I lost a significant amount myself. If we weren't committing war crimes against you, you would be committing war crimes against the JrAPD who didn't have a single other SAPD member on. It's genuinely crazy how I hear from @ Marcus that he wanted the RnR rework because he didn't like the textures Sploding made and wanted a reduced size that would allow more skins. I don't understand how you can be upset at a faction rework that expands upon what you have available requested by your leader with someone who didn't participate in the rework. It's also worth noting that the "File Size" was a major limitation considering it rivaled the APD and the APD had a larger arsenal of vehicles, the APD got reworked for the same considerations. Have fun in retirement. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Admin -dante- 5182 Posted July 6, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Dog y’all posting 2am drama.. at least wait until the morning gahdamn 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment
JaydenB 305 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 o7 @ PolarBear gonna miss seeing you around man 1 1 Quote Link to comment
PolarBear 303 Posted July 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, JaydenB said: o7 @ PolarBear gonna miss seeing you around man For real, I enjoyed all of our encounters. I always tried to keep the vultures behaving. lol Quote Link to comment
ares 395 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 o7 @ PolarBear didn't interact with you that much but still escaped you giving me my flight test after you promised to fail me 1 1 Quote Link to comment
The Antichrist 237 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 It would be really cool if there was a medium for raising issues that wouldn't be shrugged off and ignored other than going to the forums with drama. Don't get me wrong, I thrive on the forum drama... especially now. But 99% of the issues on this server are because there is no legitimate way that is actually listened to for the community to voice concerns and problems that will actually get anything done. This place suffers from the same type of problems as autocratic regimes. When you deal with democracies, people are voted out, problems are fixed. When you deal with places like this, you basically have to go for someone's head and oust them by force or o7 to make any kind of a point. Nobody is infallible and every single person should be questioned and called out when they're wrong or not in step with the rest of the community. Sycophants hurt this community. If you find yourself always agreeing with leadership, you are a detriment to this server and you should go away. You only care about the approval of authority figures. People on this server have been calling for a new chief for more than 6 months now, and absolutely NOTHING has been done to fix the problem. That being said... It's been real @ PolarBear . You're a real one. It takes a special type of brain to be able to deal with careering medic. I wish you the best. Quote Link to comment
JaydenB 305 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, PolarBear said: For real, I enjoyed all of our encounters. I always tried to keep the vultures behaving. lol Dont be a stranger you know where to find us 1 1 Quote Link to comment
The Antichrist 237 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 @ Mako This server doesnt have thousands of serious players. In the future, start talking to many many active people from a faction not just the leaders before implementing stuff and you'd get a fuck ton less blowback for it. You need to learn how to listen to people and accept when something you want to do isn't popular and you need to reconsider. Interacting with wide groups of this community, accepting when you're wrong, accepting when what you want to do isn't popular, and actually listening to the playerbase as a whole instead of a single figurehead would render you a far better 'community manager,' aka 'leader,' than you currently are. I say this with sincerely constructive criticism based on what people say mixed with my personal experiences with you in civ council. You're a good dev and a shitty leader. You can learn how to be better at the latter and you'd end up as beloved as some of the best staff on this server. Quote Link to comment
Chief of Furry Police Rexo 911 Posted July 6, 2023 Chief of Furry Police Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 O7 Hank hill 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Clashingtin 1102 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 who am I gonna hawk now..... 1 Quote Link to comment
Grizzly 383 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Mako said: it's pointless in asking SRnR to address any issues because they'll just laugh it off and continue to allow medics to break rules. That shows how much you really know about the backend of our faction also, just because we actually take care of our write ups in a timely matter (instead of letting them sit in the disciplinary room for days and sometimes even weeks while every Sr tells them they have to wait for the other inactive Sr to do their write up) doesn't mean we don't discipline our Jr's according. You're probably just mad the RnR doesn't base our write ups on if it effects a Aegis member or not, like I've seen Sr Apd do in the past. 1 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment
Moxi The Loli 10 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Soon enough @ PolarBear Soon... o7 my friend. Take care, and I hope things improve in the near future. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Moxi The Loli 10 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Mako said: I don't hate the RnR, I just enjoy having a mild drama beef with them, the only thing I don't like is that historically nothing happens on RnR reports and it's pointless in asking SRnR to address any issues because they'll just laugh it off and continue to allow medics to break rules. It's honestly been like this since I originally joined in 2017. Why does one simply... "Enjoy mild Drama beef" With a faction that is defenseless? I could understand the civilian beef, but with the RnR...? To comment on "Asking SRnR to address any issues because they'll just laugh it off" I don't recall the last time this has happened in my time within the faction, I'm not a senior but I'm still aware of how things work . Things get done rather quickly, meanwhile I see APD members with "See SAPD" Tags on TS on the daily... Not sure who's training these APD members or any of that, but the amount of IA's I've had on APD members who don't know any APD rules or the amount of times I've brought apd members into support about simple handbook instructions... Every time I've talked to "The highest ranking APD Officer online" when I've got a problem, it's shrugged off or I get told I'm wrong. 2 hours ago, Mako said: I don't know what your grievances are with either Winters or Nicole but it really goes to show that you've never honestly interacted with them and can't see the backend of the faction. You don't know who isn't active, who isn't meeting their desk activities, who is getting IA'd, etc. from the outside looking in "hurr APD bad, I was removed!!" seems like an appealing thing to jump on the bandwagon however you're literally backing someone who stepped down of their own volition then lied about it for community sympathy. The 10hr minimum was meant to encourage SAPD to actually play since the desk duties they were completing were light, SAPD in the past historically put more time into the server and did their duties + some additional. Winters? You mean the guy nobody CAN interact with...? Nicole? The person who sits in their own channel 24/7 and doesn't socialize? It's pretty obvious who's active or not if you're playing just about everyday... Last time I spoke to @ Winters was... July 29th, 2022. Almost a year ago, and when was the last time any of the community saw him again...? Just curious. I don't usually negatively comment, but my lord. 2 2 Quote Link to comment
nicole 808 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Moxi The Loli said: Why does one simply... "Enjoy mild Drama beef" With a faction that is defenseless? I could understand the civilian beef, but with the RnR...? To comment on "Asking SRnR to address any issues because they'll just laugh it off" I don't recall the last time this has happened in my time within the faction, I'm not a senior but I'm still aware of how things work . Things get done rather quickly, meanwhile I see APD members with "See SAPD" Tags on TS on the daily... Not sure who's training these APD members or any of that, but the amount of IA's I've had on APD members who don't know any APD rules or the amount of times I've brought apd members into support about simple handbook instructions... Every time I've talked to "The highest ranking APD Officer online" when I've got a problem, it's shrugged off or I get told I'm wrong. Winters? You mean the guy nobody CAN interact with...? Nicole? The person who sits in their own channel 24/7 and doesn't socialize? It's pretty obvious who's active or not if you're playing just about everyday... Last time I spoke to @ Winters was... July 29th, 2022. Almost a year ago, and when was the last time any of the community saw him again...? Just curious. I don't usually negatively comment, but my lord. I make it a priority to play in a public channel whenever I am on cop, I am unsure where you're getting this from. Overall Stats - Monthly Sr. APD Name Squad Time Nicole Senior APD 38.83 I won't publicize anyone else's times, however, what I pasted above is our monthly statistics for Senior APD times and I was the 3rd highest the 1st and 2nd are both Sergeants. Last Week 2 Weeks Ago 3 Weeks Ago 4 Weeks Ago 5 Weeks Ago 6 Weeks Ago 7 Weeks Ago 5.18 12.77 5.48 15.40 16.62 8.82 26.45 Total Tests Officer 263 Nicole I will also leave this here, I currently have the most tests out of all the Senior APD. I am Senior SWAT, Senior Designer, and Developer and I still manage to make my times every week and deal with the responsibilities that come with being a Captain. 2 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Lucien 3054 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 One last downvote FUCK MAKO 1 Quote Link to comment
Benne 369 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Gee Goly, maybe i wont be perm corp after all Quote Link to comment
Lea 1402 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 My dude, I'll never forget that time you piloted the submarine all the way to the jail because 88 gave me way too much freedom so I abandoned them. Every one involved was laughing, even them in the end. We have so many memories. The Kavala therapy group. Quad bike drops. Enjoy these in your retirement. You will be missed! I will always save a cupcake for you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Admin -dante- 5182 Posted July 6, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Mako said: SRnR to address any issues because they'll just laugh it off and continue to allow medics to break rules. It's honestly been like this since I originally joined in 2017. I got no dog in this fight cuz even if you and I didn’t mesh back then it’s been years so I have no personal issues with you anymore even if everyone else does , but 2017-2018 RnR didn’t play with broken rules. Especially during the Muthinator regime, mfers would lose medic so fast for breaking rules. Was very unforgiving for medics to play at the time. I also can’t speak on the last few years, but I know I saw a medic being a trash can last month and Marcus handled that mfer in moments after it happened. So it seems like there’s definitely some accountability going there, at least through Marcus. I will say though that I’ve never experienced such a rebellious junior RnR in all my years playing. I’ve played a lot of both factions since I’ve been back and surprisingly have encountered much more asshole medics to cops than asshole cops to medics. So that’s a problem as a whole I think though. Could be fixed by reporting them directly to Marcus though, idk. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
ThatNerdyGuy 5914 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, nicole said: I make it a priority to play in a public channel whenever I am on cop, I am unsure where you're getting this from. Overall Stats - Monthly Sr. APD Name Squad Time Nicole Senior APD 38.83 I won't publicize anyone else's times, however, what I pasted above is our monthly statistics for Senior APD times and I was the 3rd highest the 1st and 2nd are both Sergeants. Last Week 2 Weeks Ago 3 Weeks Ago 4 Weeks Ago 5 Weeks Ago 6 Weeks Ago 7 Weeks Ago 5.18 12.77 5.48 15.40 16.62 8.82 26.45 Total Tests Officer 263 Nicole I will also leave this here, I currently have the most tests out of all the Senior APD. I am Senior SWAT, Senior Designer, and Developer and I still manage to make my times every week and deal with the responsibilities that come with being a Captain. If you’re playing in public channels when you play in my opinion you’re setting a great example. When I was a Senior I very rarely played in interrogation rooms. I may have been undercover to stop people stacking the channel but I didn’t hide with just my friends. I’ll always maintain the focus of a senior should be to play with as many people as possible, regardless your rank, so you can evaluate those juniors when positions need filling in the future. Not to mention in puts a face to the name when some junior meets you. 8 Quote Link to comment
LULA 2022 - PT 13 487 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Shit, the RnR lost a good one today. You were by far one of my favorite boomers and a chill dude. Now enjoy e-retirement by taking the kiddos to a park or something. 1 Quote Link to comment
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