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Civ Roundtable 2019-09-30


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  • Warzone raid changes
    • Max 5 waves per raid
    • PO+ have to pay 100% of their loadout cost if they die during the wave.
    • Civilians recieve warpoints based on the quality of gear the APD officer is wearing
    • APD officers count towards civilian killstreaks
    • PO+ are lethals only (Exception: Following someone in first wave you are permitted to taze)
  • New cartel event: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cu8KLhXpRxeLdmz16nwYu7b4egjRRZcmO3DqKXHvOj0
  • Qilins added to the warpoint shop for 12pts
  • Add food and water to dope crates

Scats

We wanted to encourage more income generation on the civilian faction rather than the whitelisted ones.

  • Bounty payout reductions for both the APD and Vigilantes
    • APD payout for non-payment of ticket reduced to:
      • 75% for 3+ officers
      • 50% for 2 officers
      • 24% for 1 officer
    • Vigi bounty arrest rewards reduced to:
      • Tier 1 - 30%
      • Tier 2 - 40%
      • Tier 3 - 60%
      • Tier 4 - 75%
  • Reduced medic revive reward to 15k per revive
  • Reduced all truck purchase price by 25%. This also affects upgrade and insurance price
  • Reduced APD restrain protection radius to 25meters
  • 10 minute auto unrestrain timer increased to 15minutes in line with the maximum hostage time limit

Runs

Vigi

  • Remove the rule: "If a player has been a victim of robbery or murder, that player may not return to seek revenge and send him/her to jail."

Feds

  • Remove armed Qilin from BW lootpool and add to Rebel outpost vehicle shop
  • Ban vans usage at Federal Reserve robberies, re-open original jump spots at crate jump, near telos tower, and gate 4
  • Make blackwater green external walls unbreakable

Other

  • Raise betting cap to 50m, confirmation dialog if the bet is over 5m

 

You can find the public roster for the Civilian Council here

If you're interested in applying for the Civilian Council, you can find information here: 

 

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Hunter

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fuck you why the fuck did you lower vigi payout you better add tier 5 now and give us 6.5mm that was a dick move fuck the APD us vigis work for are rank we grinded to get 90% of bounty's at t4 and you fucking lower it why the fuck did you do that give us a fucking t5 with 6.5 and 90% bounty's you absolute dicks 

@Zahzi fuck you asshole

fuck everyone on the scat council you all are cucks go do something better in you life you peices of shit 

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CompOrban

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Remove armed Qilin from BW lootpool and add to Rebel outpost vehicle shop  

 

i win

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1 hour ago, HUNTERS said:

fuck you why the fuck did you lower vigi payout you better add tier 5 now and give us 6.5mm that was a dick move fuck the APD us vigis work for are rank we grinded to get 90% of bounty's at t4 and you fucking lower it why the fuck did you do that give us a fucking t5 with 6.5 and 90% bounty's you absolute dicks 

@Zahzi fuck you asshole

fuck everyone on the scat council you all are cucks go do something better in you life you peices of shit 

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Sadly someone from the Vigi council has to turn up and present their ideas and defend their "faction". Ultimately vigilantes, just like the APD are making too much money from bounties and have for some time now. We're finally making some progress and you're literally @'ing the wrong guy. You're welcome to apply if you think you can represent your group better.

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Hunter

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3 hours ago, Mr Majestic said:

Sadly someone from the Vigi council has to turn up and present their ideas and defend their "faction". Ultimately vigilantes, just like the APD are making too much money from bounties and have for some time now. We're finally making some progress and you're literally @'ing the wrong guy. You're welcome to apply if you think you can represent your group better.

The thing is vigis work to get there teirs and one wrong mistake against the PD and all that work is gone for APD they have no risk to losing gear and you keep you'r rank or increase in rank 90% of the time 

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mohsen98

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why we have Vigi council  ?? bunch of retards

#remove  Vigi council

 

  • Remove the rule: "If a player has been a victim of robbery or murder, that player may not return to seek revenge and send him/her to jail."       ====dumb _l_

 

 

 

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ThatNerdyGuy

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6 hours ago, HUNTERS said:

The thing is vigis work to get there teirs and one wrong mistake against the PD and all that work is gone for APD they have no risk to losing gear and you keep you'r rank or increase in rank 90% of the time 

What you said about cop is not entirely true. There is risk, getting robbed and losing your loadout. Not to mention, the majority of cops that ever play the faction will never get passed Patrol Officer. A slim few will get Corporal and an even slimmer few will get Senior. You can also lose your rank by not following APD or Server rules.

Hunter

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3 hours ago, ThatNerdyGuy said:

What you said about cop is not entirely true. There is risk, getting robbed and losing your loadout. Not to mention, the majority of cops that ever play the faction will never get passed Patrol Officer. A slim few will get Corporal and an even slimmer few will get Senior. You can also lose your rank by not following APD or Server rules.

That is a good point but if a vigi does not do to the letter what a cop wants then they can get deranked or lose there vigi

ThatNerdyGuy

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Just now, HUNTERS said:

That is a good point but if a vigi does not do to the letter what a cop wants then they can get deranked or lose there vigi

Yes they can but they are also not a whitelisted faction either. Cops have to take tests and are held to higher RP standards than most Vigilantes will partake in. Now, if you ever gets your vigi ripped or deranked without proper reason, submit an IA Report and we will look at it.

Unjo

Posted

1 hour ago, mohsen98 said:

 

why we have Vigi council  ?? bunch of retards

#remove  Vigi council

 

  • Remove the rule: "If a player has been a victim of robbery or murder, that player may not return to seek revenge and send him/her to jail."       ====dumb _l_


 

 

 

Hows that dumb

8 hours ago, HUNTERS said:

give us a fucking t5 with 6.5 and 90% bounty's you absolute dicks 

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chubs

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The vigilante grind is definitely much harder than the cop grind. APD have a bunch of rules and in-game mechanics in place that make it a fighting faction essentially. Plus as a vigilante you've gotta watch out for the stupidest shit because one small slip-up someone like Keith the cop will come and reset you back a tier. The two are barely comparable and shouldn't be grouped together when it comes to arrest reward reductions. The only people making significant bank off the role are tier 4 vigilantes who definitely deserve as it's hard to successfully do runs and they've grinded so long for it.

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DubbedSoap

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4 hours ago, ThatNerdyGuy said:

Cops have to take tests and are held to higher RP standards than most Vigilantes will partake in.

I've had maybe 2 cops RP ever. At all. 

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i win

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47 minutes ago, Soap del Mar said:

I've had maybe 2 cops RP ever. At all. 

Maybe now that you get a reduced rate for criminals not paying their ticket you might see the APD roleplaying more to encourage players to pay their tickets. Thinking about it, there is basically no incentive at all to paying a ticket since jail time is such a joke right now :/

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DubbedSoap

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Just now, Mr Majestic said:

Maybe now that you get a reduced rate for criminals not paying their ticket you might see the APD roleplaying more to encourage players to pay their tickets. Thinking about it, there is basically no incentive at all to paying a ticket since jail time is such a joke right now 😕

I hope you are right, Sir! I would love to see it.

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ThatNerdyGuy

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2 hours ago, Soap del Mar said:

I've had maybe 2 cops RP ever. At all. 

If someone isn't following list or robocoping send it in as a IA report. If we don't see it happening then we can't fix it.

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Zahzi

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8 hours ago, chubs said:

The vigilante grind is definitely much harder than the cop grind

"Grinding" to PO? Easy, not even a grind.

Going higher than that? Definitely more of a grind. You need 100s of hours just to get to corp and have to really grind.

12 hours ago, mohsen98 said:

why we have Vigi council  ?? bunch of retards

#remove  Vigi council

If you feel like vigilantes aren't being represented in the council well, why don't you apply yourself?

 

6 hours ago, Mr Majestic said:
6 hours ago, Soap del Mar said:

I've had maybe 2 cops RP ever. At all. 

Maybe now that you get a reduced rate for criminals not paying their ticket you might see the APD roleplaying more to encourage players to pay their tickets. Thinking about it, there is basically no incentive at all to paying a ticket since jail time is such a joke right now 😕

Yeah, back in the day when cops got 20% for arresting and 100% for a ticket being paid, there was far more of an incentive to roleplay and try to get the civ to pay their ticket by being chill, giving a bit of discount, etc. Also jail time was significantly longer, so that probably contributed to the dynamic.  Would be cool if this helps at all.

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Hoonter

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6 hours ago, Zahzi said:

 

 

Yeah, back in the day when cops got 20% for arresting and 100% for a ticket being paid, there was far more of an incentive to roleplay and try to get the civ to pay their ticket by being chill, giving a bit of discount, etc. Also jail time was significantly longer, so that probably contributed to the dynamic.  Would be cool if this helps at all.

Cops don't care about rp. They never will and reporting cops for robocopping does nothing. But doesn't matter when nobody cares about roleplay anymore simply going back and fighting faster.

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your name

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13 hours ago, Hoonter said:

Cops don't care about rp. They never will and reporting cops for robocopping does nothing. But doesn't matter when nobody cares about roleplay anymore simply going back and fighting faster.

I try to rp but when people are toxic/afk puts a bad taste in your mouth when processing. I would like to give more pardons/reduced tickets but cops are so money hungry everyone gets pissy

Keithr

Posted

On 9/30/2019 at 10:16 AM, chubs said:

The vigilante grind is definitely much harder than the cop grind. APD have a bunch of rules and in-game mechanics in place that make it a fighting faction essentially. Plus as a vigilante you've gotta watch out for the stupidest shit because one small slip-up someone like Keith the cop will come and reset you back a tier. The two are barely comparable and shouldn't be grouped together when it comes to arrest reward reductions. The only people making significant bank off the role are tier 4 vigilantes who definitely deserve as it's hard to successfully do runs and they've grinded so long for it.

Ayeeee das me

N7Zero

Posted

Ban vans usage at Federal Reserve robberies, re-open original jump spots at crate jump, near telos tower, and gate 4

FINALLY!!! :pogchamp:

FalseBit

Posted

Why are the Scats making big decisions over APD and Medic payouts?? Dumb. Stay in your lane. 

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i win

Posted

2 hours ago, Eased said:

Why are the Scats making big decisions over APD and Medic payouts?? Dumb. Stay in your lane. 

Just because we both play the server in different ways doesn't mean either of our opinions/ideas are worth any more or less. Take a look at the stats yourself and ask yourself why this might be bad for the community. Civilian is the lifeblood of the server, with less activity there both of the whitelisted factions no longer work and prosper like they should.

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