4 hours ago, McDili said:

You're right. We should remove all the scopes.

 

Honestly, it's going to be rare that people will even get them not to mention use them. I somewhat doubt people will use them often in cartel fights and risk losing them very often. And then if you kill someone and they don't get revived, it's out of circulation for good until it drops again.

 

We know that gangs are going to be trying to farm this a lot. We made the chances low enough for the "legendary" items in consideration of that so that they are actually going to be rare.

Well it has the problem of taking away a whole aspect of being a good shot, I get that it will be rare as fuck and all, but the scope has something that all others don't and that is zeroing.

One of the things that makes most people a superior shots to others is their ability to range and quickly line up shots. In this case, with the DMS it takes one of those factors out of the equation completely, and that is the ability to line up the shots. Sure, you will still have to lead somewhat based on if the target is moving or not and if the range is something like 562m for example, you will still have to aim up a tad bit, but sniping over 1km is made much easier for someone using a scope with adjustable zeroing. It is just concerning me that this will cause an imbalance for rebel end game overall as it is such an extreme advantage. Don't get me wrong, I loveee this new Blackwater Weapons thing, even the MAR-10 is fine in my book, but the only reason I care about the scope is because of the zeroing thing, it just makes the skill/disadvantages of shooting at longer ranges with 7.62 nearly unnoticeable. That is what I'm trying to get across. By what I'm reading it is an extremely rare drop, but the thought of someone considered "high tier" getting their hands on something like that scares the shit out of me. Like... rip head dude... Rant over.

TL;DR in bold.

1 minute ago, Vanilla Coke said:

Well it has the problem of taking away a whole aspect of being a good shot, I get that it will be rare as fuck and all, but the scope has something that all others don't and that is zeroing.

One of the things that makes most people a superior shots to others is their ability to range and quickly line up shots. In this case, with the DMS it takes one of those factors out of the equation completely, and that is the ability to line up the shots. Sure, you will still have to lead somewhat based on if the target is moving or not and if the range is something like 562m for example, you will still have to aim up a tad bit, but sniping over 1km is made much easier for someone using a scope with adjustable zeroing. It is just concerning me that this will cause an imbalance for rebel end game overall as it is such an extreme advantage. Don't get me wrong, I loveee this new Blackwater Weapons thing, even the MAR-10 is fine in my book, but the only reason I care about the scope is because of the zeroing thing, it just makes the skill/disadvantages of shooting at longer ranges with 7.62 nearly unnoticeable. That is what I'm trying to get across. By what I'm reading it is an extremely rare drop, but the thought of someone considered "high tier" getting their hands on something like that scares the shit out of me. Like... rip head dude... Rant over.

 

TL;DR in bold.

Yeah, if someone like Deimos or Tiger were lucky enough to get a MAR-10 and a DMS scope for example, it would be bad for a lot of people.

I get what you're saying, I really do. It's a scary thought. But that's the point. It's going to be incredibly rare that someone gets a DMS scope. I actually fully expect rebels/civs to complain about Blackwater not giving awesome shit for a while, not to mention having to deal with the APD in an area where the APD has a decent advantage with the breakable walls.

It's more than likely going to take a lot of grinding to get it. That person is going to be rewarded with some absurd rewards for it. But it's also a civ, which means when they die there's a good chance that if someone knows they have a DMS (And they will, because it'll be shouted from mountain tops) that the body will camped to no end to make sure it's gone for good. Nobody is invincible and everybody eventually dies. After a month or so, I doubt we'll see more than 5 in circulation. IF that.

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my house crate is empty after the update help me.

what is the new chief helmet?

lol (not mine btw, stole this pic from someone)

I mean I got this cool toy and some .50 mags.

45 minutes ago, Cab00se said:

lol (not mine btw, stole this pic from someone)

fake and gay

So why is my Virtual inventory gone from one of my houses? aparantly everyone has gotten their Virtual wiped for some reason 

36 minutes ago, FluffyTEDDY said:

So why is my Virtual inventory gone from one of my houses? aparantly everyone has gotten their Virtual wiped for some reason 

Devs are aware and working on a fix.

47 minutes ago, FluffyTEDDY said:

So why is my Virtual inventory gone from one of my houses? aparantly everyone has gotten their Virtual wiped for some reason 

10 minutes ago, McDili said:

Devs are aware and working on a fix.

It's already fixed, but you'll need to submit a comp request.

Oh damn, I'm jealous about those 50 mags.

45 minutes ago, Poseidon said:

57 minutes ago, McDili said:

Devs are aware and working on a fix.

 

46 minutes ago, Poseidon said:

 

It's already fixed, but you'll need to submit a comp request.

Awesome ^^ 

1 hour ago, Augustus said:

Oh damn, I'm jealous about those 50 mags.

want to buy them?

I'll think about it. I'll have to see how good the 115 is

The 115 is deadly in CQC. The .50 rounds don't have a high velocity. They'll rip an Orca pilot out but the bullets fly slower than the AK-12, have to lead a lot and long-range roaching would not work with it.

this new dev is a fucking beast mate

can vigilantes get spar 16s and MXCs? everybody has too high level armor of vests for vigilantes to effectively use the sting against criminals, it is better for deputy use because deputies don't have to worry about losing it and aren't even supposed to travel alone, while vigilantes have the possibility to lose their gear and giving them a horrid gun prevents them from actually doing their job and increases the risk of dying. It would be cool if vigilantes could get some of those NATO uniforms stocked in rebel as well.

I see some people complaining about the house wipe bug, but how would I put in a comp request if I have no previous pictures of what was in my house before.

I'm Peter "I promise you will probably never see a DMS scope, their like ultra rare".... Tree gets one in less than 2 hours.

41 minutes ago, Orgondo said:

I'm Peter "I promise you will probably never see a DMS scope, their like ultra rare".... Tree gets one in less than 2 hours.

MC also got one 

Kinda disappointed they added the dms it's gonna be waste land in a few weeks when they build up and someone starts duping them

23 minutes ago, Jeff Chaplin said:

MC also got one 

 

Kinda disappointed they added the dms it's gonna be waste land in a few weeks when they build up and someone starts duping them

If it gets duped it'll be easily tracked. And that means bans and wipes for whomever does it. Also if you're talking about Mory Mango then he was not being truthful. Unless they actually got a drop between last night and now.

1 hour ago, Orgondo said:

I'm Peter "I promise you will probably never see a DMS scope, their like ultra rare".... Tree gets one in less than 2 hours.

Didn't you guys get one with Mercury when it was bugged? Mercury confiscated it, right? Or did you get a second one?

39 minutes ago, McDili said:

If it gets duped it'll be easily tracked. And that means bans and wipes for whomever does it. Also if you're talking about Mory Mango then he was not being truthful. Unless they actually got a drop between last night and now.

And we will be watching for it 

2 hours ago, Orgondo said:

I'm Peter "I promise you will probably never see a DMS scope, their like ultra rare".... Tree gets one in less than 2 hours.

I increased rarity with one of my hotfixes.

So, with the vehicles that can be dropped from Blackwater, will I be able to take them to a garage and store them or are they automatically sent there? Or are they like a 1 life drop thing?