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Civ Round Table 4/28/19


DeadPool

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Most things we brought up was shot down. This meeting took an awfully long time so this is what we got.

 

Cartels- @Jimmy Jarvis @HyperGoat @swervy @Toasty @nomadox

  • Nothing for now sadly

Feds-   @Kamikaze @indian @billdroid @Cyanide @ryan beck

  • Nothing for now sadly

Scats- @Mr Majestic @Tyrone @Unjo @John Wayne @Nex is the name

  • Every 30 days you will be taxed 10% of the house per house like it is for gang sheds
  • Kidneys rework
  • Faster Processing time if more cops are on

Runs- @Bloodmoon @indian @NokiaStrong @Mudiwa @Zahzi

  • Working on some economy changes

Vigis-@Tyrone @CorNfLower  @|REAL| Boing

  • allowing vigis to buy epis at vigi out post

As always if you have an Idea feel free to msg anyone of your civ reps.

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1 minute ago, Seth Mobster said:
  • House tax 10% of the house purchase - Anyway you could explain this more in-depth? I don't understand.

Every 30 days you will be taxed 10% of the house per house like it is for gang sheds

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19 minutes ago, DeadPool said:

Every 30 days you will be taxed 10% of the house per house like it is for gang sheds

So u have to access it and practically refresh the dead like it was but now costs money?

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who the fuck suggested the house thing, whoever it is you're a headass

1 hour ago, DeadPool said:

Every 30 days you will be taxed 10% of the house per house like it is for gang sheds

so if my house cost like 1,000,000 then 10% of that is 100k, so i have to pay 100k every 30 days?

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27 minutes ago, Google said:

Who the fuck suggested a tax on houses? That's gay asf

I didn't tell my civ council member I wanted to be taxed. Fuck that you cunts

Combating inactive players from indefinitely refreshing houses with no penalty, yea fuck you civ council.

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Just now, Bloodmoon said:

Combating inactive players from indefinitely refreshing houses with no penalty, yea fuck you civ council.

What? Dude if they wanna combat that then reduce the timer or something like fuck that. I'd rather not pay that as an active player.

For example let's say some Tree guy with $80mil goes inactive and just keeps refreshing his houses.

They can refresh their house 320 times.

That's 26 years.

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Just now, Google said:

What? Dude if they wanna combat that then reduce the timer or something like fuck that. I'd rather not pay that as an active player.

For example let's say some Tree guy with $80mil goes inactive and just keeps refreshing his houses.

They can refresh their house 320 times.

That's 26 years.

Paying 10% to refresh on a house that players should already making money off of, if you can't afford it and sell it, then good that's what we want. If you can't afford it and do more runs, good thats what we want. If you can't afford it and lose it, good that's what we want.

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1 minute ago, Bloodmoon said:

Paying 10% to refresh on a house that players should already making money off of, if you can't afford it and sell it, then good that's what we want. If you can't afford it and do more runs, good thats what we want. If you can't afford it and lose it, good that's what we want.

F U C K that. It's not about what you guys what you mongs. It's about what the players want.

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1 minute ago, Google said:

F U C K that. It's not about what you guys what you mongs. It's about what the players want.

Players want to run around with 2 bil, are you saying we should let them keep all the hacked money?

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Just now, Bloodmoon said:

Players want to run around with 2 bil, are you saying we should let them keep all the hacked money?

Yes

No but real talk. If a player has $3mil he can just keep refreshing his house for one year and then he'll have to make money again. Like it's not going to change anything....

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2 minutes ago, Google said:

Yes

No but real talk. If a player has $3mil he can just keep refreshing his house for one year and then he'll have to make money again. Like it's not going to change anything....

You're assuming that people are never going to change in account balance. If you don't see that a house upkeep gives opportunities to new and old players to potentially find houses off market then I fear for the CQC administration team, or you're just trying to push your own agenda, whatever that is.

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Just now, Bloodmoon said:

You're assuming that people are never going to change in account balance. If you don't see that a house upkeep gives opportunities to new and old players to potentially find houses off market then I fear for the CQC administration team, or you're just trying to push your own agenda, whatever that is.

Business is business.

Actual question:

Why can't I sell my house for any amount I want. Why do I HAVE To sell it to market?

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3 minutes ago, Google said:

Business is business.

Actual question:

Why can't I sell my house for any amount I want. Why do I HAVE To sell it to market?

Please stop editing your responses in thanks, but a player could be lazy and not want to sell it to another player, the house could not have been refreshed, could not have found a buyer.

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Just now, Bloodmoon said:

Please stop editing your responses in thanks, but a player could be lazy and not want to sell it to another player, the house could not have been refreshed, could not have found a buyer.

I'm posting again but it combines it. And I mean I just want to be able to buy houses without being potentially scammed...

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1 minute ago, Google said:

I'm posting again but it combines it. And I mean I just want to be able to buy houses without being potentially scammed...

What do you mean scammed?

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Just now, Bloodmoon said:

What do you mean scammed?

If I wanna buy a house right now I have to give money to someone then have them sell it so I can buy it. Can't we just make that system automatic for the houses? Asylum has it.

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7 minutes ago, Google said:

If I wanna buy a house right now I have to give money to someone then have them sell it so I can buy it. Can't we just make that system automatic for the houses? Asylum has it.

maybe, also no one forces you to go first in trades :4head:

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55 minutes ago, Google said:

Business is business.

Actual question:

Why can't I sell my house for any amount I want. Why do I HAVE To sell it to market?

That feature will be added soon. @TheCmdrRex posted about it not to long ago.

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allowing vigis to buy epis at vigiout post

The worst civilian council I've ever seen

 dismissal them from the civilian council they are so useless

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9 hours ago, mohsen98 said:

allowing vigis to buy epis at vigiout post

The worst civilian council I've ever seen

 dismissal them from the civilian council they are so useless

@Tyrone

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10 hours ago, mohsen98 said:

allowing vigis to buy epis at vigiout post

The worst civilian council I've ever seen

 dismissal them from the civilian council they are so useless

What's wrong with that. Also if you think our ideas are so bad, how about you give us some of your ideas or apply for the position. If you are concerned with buffs, then that is out of my control, as everyone on the council and staff want vigi nerfs. I have brought up several small buffs that were denied due to vigis being a bit too strong.

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54 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

If you are concerned with buffs, then that is out of my control, as everyone on the council and staff want vigi nerfs. I have brought up several small buffs that were denied due to vigis being a bit too strong.

I think it would be more accurate to say we want balance between the factions and different play styles. I think once Vigilantes are in line as far as their monetary gains go, we'll find it easier to suggest obvious quality of life changes that they could benefit from. We're mostly waiting to see what happens with the taze script right now, we might be fucking them quite hard with that.

17 hours ago, Google said:

Who the fuck suggested a tax on houses? That's gay asf

I did, and I'll try and explain why myself, and apparently other civ council members and staff thought it was a good idea. Right now houses are basically being taken hostage by a portion of the older player base that have already made their money with the houses. A lot of the houses currently owned by these players don't even get used anymore, they are simply refreshed and left to rot. I'm guilty of this too.

A good example is players that are currently inactive, perm banned or simply don't have the game installed anymore can have their buddies with permanent keys keep their houses active and off the market. Stopping this behaviour is beneficial to new players that are currently the life blood of the servers.

We're not even talking about a lot of money here, 10% of a 4 crater is 220k/month. I think if you're sitting on a 4 crater like that, you purchased, upgraded and put gear into - you can probably afford that upkeep and the tax is more than reasonable. Of course if the owner isn't around at all to pay the fee, or can't afford to pay the fee then the house goes up on the market for anyone to purchase.

I haven't even touched on the advantages having a passive money sink has on the server economy and inflation.

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